Thor (MCU) VS Goku (Namek Saga) GRACE

[RanaProGamer]

Yup, this fight is actually possible now. Thor uses the Bifrost to come to King Kai's Planet where he meets Goku, Goku senses Thor's power and believes that he is strong and tries to test his strength, Thor being the battle-loving warrior he is, he accepts the fight. Who comes out on top?

Standard Battle Assumptions

Speed equalized.

Thor scales to 136.066 Tenatons
Goku scales to 244.73 Tenatons

Love and Thunder Thor vs SSJ Goku
Who wins and why?

 

[Noneless21]

Cough cough

well the one above there uses different key

 

[RanaProGamer]

Cough cough

well the one above there uses different key

That's Toei Goku

 

[RanaProGamer]

Bump

 

[RanaProGamer]

Bumpin

 

[FireSwordHero]

Ok lets get this discussion cracking and this thread rolling.

So to put things on a simple term, Goku takes strength easy, being 1.8 times stronger than Thor, and this is assuming that we allow Thor to have his high end calcs as he is technically listed as being 5A-likely-4C, so that is a no brainer there. However, Thor does take experience due to his age and his culture being heavily warrior based, so it could be argued that Thor could beat Goku through his experience since its a rather big theme in dragon ball that skill is just as important as power.

So, going into powers and abilities, it seems that they are evenly matched in this regard. Goku's pressure point manipulation gives him an advantage in melee over Thor, his various Ki attacks could match Thor's lightning powers in terms of Range, his Solar Flare can blind thor, and if given the time Goku could use a spirit bomb to absorb Thor's energy attacks like he did Frieza's. However, Thor's Elemental powers give him a much large control over the battlefield with his lightning, tornadoes and storms, Zeus thunderbolt gives Thor Danmaku and the ability to teleport, and can throw and control his hammer telepathically so that it can home on Goku and attack him. Thor also does have a small healing factor, so he could recover any minor wounds he receives throughout the fight unlike Goku. Goku's stealth isnt also a factor here since aside from it going against Goku's standard tactics, it only works on people with ki sensing to begin with. Still, nothing Thor has could really be used to give him the win, so for the most part they are even.

I would say Goku wins this due to strength, but with so many factors and different abilities it could go either way.

 

[FireSwordHero]

Summary on each character

Goku
(+) Wins the strength/durability regardless of how much Thor is highballed.
(+) Likely a better melee martial artist than Thor who primarily uses weapons.
(-) Less experienced though overall compared to Thor
(+) Pressure point manipulation makes Goku better than Thor in melee, and could give him a win.
(=) Matches ranges with Thor in regard to most combat abilities.
(+) Can use shockwaves to block ki attacks, and could likely do the same with Thor's lightning
(+) Solar flare can blind Thor
(+) Spirt bomb could absorb Thor's lightning
(-) but does take some time to prepare
(-) Finite Ki reserves
(-) Can be bribed with stuffed crust Pizza (Totally canon btw) (*)
(+) Would stomp MCU Thor with any future keys (*)
(-) but would still lose to comic thor (*)

Thor
(+) Weather powers means better control over battle field, with storms and tornadoes
(+) Natural lightning powers + Zeus's thunderbolt gives him a lot more attack spam
(+) Can teleport with Zeus's thunderbolt (Goku's not there yet sorry guys)
(+) Can regen from minor injuries
(+) Better stamina (or at least doesn't have limited energy pool)
(+) More experienced
(-) Loses strength and durability no matter how much he is highballed.
(-) is mostly a melee fighter who prefers to fight up close, so ranged attacks would likely not be used often
(-) Could be attacked by pressure points in Melee combat
(-) Goku's shockwaves and solar flare can mess with Thor's ability to fight
(+) Thor is ripped (*)
(+) Everything before Love and Thunder (*)
(-) Love and thunder, just Love and Thunder (*)

 

[Maizesoup]

Voting for Goku since his advantages over Thor seem to make up for his weaknesses aside from maybe experience

 

[Doggo]

Goku FRA

 

[RanaProGamer]

Summary on each character

Goku
(+) Wins the strength/durability regardless of how much Thor is highballed.
(+) Likely a better melee martial artist than Thor who primarily uses weapons.
(-) Less experienced though overall compared to Thor
(+) Pressure point manipulation makes Goku better than Thor in melee, and could give him a win.
(=) Matches ranges with Thor in regard to most combat abilities.
(+) Can use shockwaves to block ki attacks, and could likely do the same with Thor's lightning
(+) Solar flare can blind Thor
(+) Spirt bomb could absorb Thor's lightning
(-) but does take some time to prepare
(-) Finite Ki reserves
(-) Can be bribed with stuffed crust Pizza (Totally canon btw) (*)
(+) Would stomp MCU Thor with any future keys (*)
(-) but would still lose to comic thor (*)

Thor
(+) Weather powers means better control over battle field, with storms and tornadoes
(+) Natural lightning powers + Zeus's thunderbolt gives him a lot more attack spam
(+) Can teleport with Zeus's thunderbolt (Goku's not there yet sorry guys)
(+) Can regen from minor injuries
(+) Better stamina (or at least doesn't have limited energy pool)
(+) More experienced
(-) Loses strength and durability no matter how much he is highballed.
(-) is mostly a melee fighter who prefers to fight up close, so ranged attacks would likely not be used often
(-) Could be attacked by pressure points in Melee combat
(-) Goku's shockwaves and solar flare can mess with Thor's ability to fight
(+) Thor is ripped (*)
(+) Everything before Love and Thunder (*)
(-) Love and thunder, just Love and Thunder (*)

So is that a vote for Goku or Thor?

 

[FireSwordHero]

So is that a vote for Goku or Thor?

I'd probably say Goku. In terms of strength, he beats Thor by a significant margin, he's also a talented martial artist so he could probably keep up with thor in melee (that + pressure point stuff giving him an edge), and has a many abilities that will help him take the win overall, though by no means I think this is a stomp.

 

[RanaProGamer]

Aight, that’s a total of 4 votes for Goku.

 

[Popted2]

Goku FRA

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Didn't Thor pretty much one shotted Zeus and no-selled his strongest move by catching Thunderbolt?

And regardless, with Stormbreaker Thor could easily overpower beings stronger than himself, though that said, Goku's Kienzan can slice Thor in half, so I wouldn't say Thor is that outmatched here

Goku doesn't resist electric attacks, so Thor could use that against him. Thor can also breathe in space while Goku can't

 

[FireSwordHero]

Didn't Thor pretty much one shotted Zeus and no-selled his strongest move by catching Thunderbolt?

Zeus is kinda featless in the MCU, as far as I am aware, since he died in his first appearance. Then again, I saw it from one clip only so I could be wrong about both parts. Even then, Goku's strength surpasses Thor's own even if we highball Thor to his maximum potential.

Goku doesn't resist electric attacks, so Thor could use that against him. Thor can also breathe in space while Goku can't

For the first part I would say it is true, but that just means that it can hurt Goku. As far as I am aware Thor's lightning doesn't have any properties that immobilize or paralyze him, unless we consider the effects electricity has on a normal body and apply that to Goku here.

As for Thor breathing in space, while it is a valid point, its probably going to be a non factor in this fight. Aside from the fact that it would be hard for Thor to recognize Goku's weakness to space, Thor would be unlikely to blow up a planet just to kill one person. Thor is no Freeza, that's for sure.

Also the fight takes place on King Kai's planet (aka a place in the afterlife) where there is plenty of oxygen even outside the planet, so Thor knocking Goku off wont help since the latter can fly.

 

[jojo123]

Goku FRA

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Goku FRA

 

[RanaProGamer]

7 votes for Goku, we’ve hit Grace.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Goku FRA

 

[Lonkitt]

This was added to Goku's victories, but...also Thor's? Can somebody edit that since Thor lost?

 

[RanaProGamer]

This was added to Goku's victories, but...also Thor's? Can somebody edit that since Thor lost?

The pages are locked, might have to ask the guy who added these. I simply put this on the matchup addition thread

 

[Lonkitt]

Somebody should fix it for sure