This is 5D?

[LIFE_OF_KING]

In Street fighter comics, there are two fundamental concepts that created the Cosmos (Multiverse). One of these concepts is Stillness, something described to be beyond everything, plans of reality, space, time, demons and humans, and had the author's confirmation of being a place that transcends all.

Akuma in his Shin form has become one with the Violence/Dark Hadou (Which is at least comparable, if not superior to Stillness). So... Shin Akuma 5D?

 

[Everything12]

No, just being stated to Transcend everything without context on how they Transcend it means it lacks the required evidence for Higher Dimensions.

 

[Everything12]

Which is also a meaningless statement without further context, you have to have very specific evidence to get anywhere into Tier 1.

 

[Duedate8898]

Pretty sure this is all blatant enough to reach that tier, not sure if Akuma would classify for it but everything else seems pretty clear-cut.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Transcending space time without further context is Low 1C as far as I know.

 

[Duedate8898]

Transcending space time without further context is Low 1C as far as I know.

Yeah, that's where it should go.

 

[Everything12]

Transcending space time without further context is nothing, a completely meaningless and empty statement without any evidence to back anything up. Certainly not Tier 1, many other Verses have tried to use similar Transcend Space-Time statements without context to get 5-D and they were all rejected.

With Tier 1 context is everything, no simple statement will get someone to Tier 1 without the necessary proof for Higher Dimension no matter what the statement is.

 

[Duedate8898]

I mean, looking at Vampire D, what we're shown above is valid.

 

[Everything12]

Vampire Hunter D's Akashic Records has more evidence than simply Transcending Space-Time, this is a major simplification of the Akashic Records and why there are Tier 1. Most of the evidence is actually relied on the interpretation of the Akashic Records seeing the Multiverse as fiction, the Transcending part is just minor supporting evidence.

 

[Duedate8898]

I mean all the profile says is this: The Akashic Records contains all of creation, which is made up of multiple universes, and realms that transcend space-time. If that's all that needs to be said on the profile then I don't think this shouldn't classify either. The statements are pretty clear in what they're saying, an area that is outside of time and space and all realities.

None of that sounds meaningless, it all sounds pretty clearly within the range of being 5D. Not just that, but the distinct lack of time within this location also points towards the area being within Tier 1 territory.

 

[Everything12]

Low Complex Multiverse level (Governs over infinite possibilities within creation which contains multiple universes, with each one of it being inside the records, its own realm transcends said possibilities, seeing them as fiction or in the pages of a book)

The underlined part is pretty much the sole reason the Akashic Records are Low 1-C, everything else mentioned is just elaboration of this point.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Eh. The only such reasoning I could find was that they could read the past, present and future from the records. Which makes sense given that it contains all information.

 

[Darksmash]

Although it hurts to say this,a location transcending space time is actually enough for Tier 1 for reasons beyond me

 

[QuasiYuri]

Prety sure we do see this as enough.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Transcending space time without further context is Low 1C as far as I know.

Not really when it only gave Sun Wukong Low 2C

 

[Gemstic]

If you have the context or statement that 'clearly establishes' the point that the higher dimension in the series is infinitely greater/superior than the lower dimension/multiverse (no personal speculation, even if it seems logical and obvious for the said higher dimension to be so), the higher dimension would be treated as a dimension of higher tier (Low 1-C in this case). From what I've seen, transcending the space-time of the lower dimension/multiverse alone is not enough for Tier 1, or several verses that're limited to 2-A on wiki would actually be Low 1-C.

 

[Darksmash]

It's actually the opposite
From what I have seen there are several verses where transcending space time statements have lead to low 1-C

 

[Everything12]

Eh. The only such reasoning I could find was that they could read the past, present and future from the records. Which makes sense given that it contains all information.

Its because they saw the Multiverse as fiction, that's pretty much the main and most important evidence for their Low 1-C, without it the Akashic Records would only be at most Tier 2 even with the Transcending statement.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

I am not sure where you got that from. I saw the quotes regarding that and nowhere does it imply that its because they saw multiverse fiction. The multitude of posts regarding say that it contains all universes and records all informations. And Matthew reads those information. If this is what "viewing the multiverse as fiction" is then kek.

 

[RM97]

Akashic Records aren't simply Low 1-C for "Transcending space and time". It's Low 1-C because it's a "larger than infinite" sized realm that governs as well as exists above all of Creation in the verse (which consists of a varying number of higher dimensional realities beyond space and time, infinite sized 4D realms, a non-existent void realm where no mathematic construct can exist, an endless realm without length, breadth, height, and time, and so on) while itself containing the primordial ether imprinted with the information of everything that has happened, can happen, and will happen, and whose leakage erases Space and Time on a conceptual level. Add in the fact that regular nobles can easily access alternate universes and higher dimensional planes of existence but can never reach the dimension of Akashic Records.

Also, transcending all of Space and Time is Low 1-C if "All of Space and Time" in context refers to the entire 4D multiverse. You don't need a specific statement or feat of it viewing the multiverse as fiction.

 

[Gemstic]

It's actually the opposite
From what I have seen there are several verses where transcending space time statements have lead to low 1-C

Also, transcending all of Space and Time is Low 1-C if "All of Space and Time" in context refers to the entire 4D multiverse. You don't need a specific statement or feat of it viewing the multiverse as fiction.

This "character" has the mere quote of transcending space-time and is in 5D. So, I don't think it's necessary to see everything as fiction to be 5D (which, in my view, is the same thing as transcending)

If all this is actually valid in determining a verse as Low 1-C, it'd actually help one of the verses I support get past the 2-A barrier. Let's see where this goes.

 

[00potato]

I think it should be enough, “Transcend” is the most specific word you can use here.