They're Not Gonna Sugarcoat It [V1 Ultrakill vs. Wolf (Sekiro)] (0-0-3)

[AThe1412]

Not just with parrying, the umbrella too, which hasn't been broken as well against the very same oneshot attacks.

I know that the spinning parry works but just blocking normally with the umbrella?

 

[Shadowslash125]

I know that the spinning parry works but just blocking normally with the umbrella?

The spinning parry is for blocking multiple enemy attacks at once while the normal one is for single enemy attacks. Even then, it just damaged wolf rather than actually breaking the umbrella. If it smokes, he's able to attack with two times the power of the attack/s he has blocked/parried.

 

[AThe1412]

The spinning parry is for blocking multiple enemy attacks at once while the normal one is for single enemy attacks. Even then, it just damaged wolf rather than actually breaking the umbrella. If it smokes, he's able to attack with two times the power of the attack/s he has blocked/parried.

Huh, didn't know that.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Huh, didn't know that.

Me neither till very recently while I was checking out the sen throw. I don't have the game with me atm so this is the next best option.

 

[Jerry59]

Same with many characters in Sekiro. They can conjure natural lightning and explosions a foot away from their face without becoming blind or deaf and firecrackers still work on them.

Can he do it with his back turned while blind and deaf though?

Can he even get hit by these ? Again V1 can parry his stance when he's about to use the firecrackers. And like, even the probably-not-that-special enemies can get out of stun pretty quickly, at best it's just going to blind his senses for this duration or a tad bit longer

How would that work? He can't really switch the Knuckleblaster out for another arm while it's already getting stomped to the ground and if it's a posture break, Wolf will immediately follow up with a deathblow.

And he can yea. V1 can quickly switch his arm at the same speed as switching weapons (which are stored in his wings like some kind of hologram, weird stuff). Heck, maybe not being able to use all the arms at the same time is just a gameplay thing. You can even change two arms while the third one is still in use. Either way, V1 will just instantly switch to the Feedbacker and Feedbacking Wolf if he tries to do that

 

[Jerry59]

And since V1 can parry those amplified Umbrella projectiles back, ya are probably going to see these two playing ping-pong (again)

 

[AThe1412]

Can he even get hit by these ? Again V1 can parry his stance when he's about to use the firecrackers. And like, even the probably-not-that-special enemies can get out of stun pretty quickly, at best it's just going to blind his senses for this duration or a tad bit longer

He can't parry someone if they're not attacking now, can he? That wouldn't make sense. He can maybe parry the normal unupgraded firecrackers but probably not the blue smoke version which Wolf has access to here.

And he can yea. V1 can quickly switch his arm at the same speed as switching weapons (which are stored in his wings like some kind of hologram, weird stuff). Heck, maybe not being able to use all the arms at the same time is just a gameplay thing. You can even change two arms while the third one is still in use. Either way, V1 will just instantly switch to the Feedbacker and Feedbacking Wolf if he tries to do that

We can see the arm didn't actually get switched despite the icon showing that it did though so... probably not. Also, would Mikiri Counter even count as an attack? If not then V1 is just gonna do a normal punch instead of a parry.

 

[Shadowslash125]

And since V1 can parry those amplified Umbrella projectiles back, ya are probably going to see these two playing ping-pong (again)

Depends on what type of umbrella was used. Fair enough for the regular, but both flame umbrellas can't be parried, as per your words saying that he can't parry actual fire or something. Another thing is that he can save the charge for later and fire it whenever he wants. Thirdly is that Sekiro would most likely use it in melee range, especially immediately after a parry/block.

 

[Shadowslash125]

ya are probably going to see these two playing ping-pong (again)

Ping pong and kiss?

 

[Jerry59]

He can't parry someone if they're not attacking now, can he? That wouldn't make sense. He can maybe parry the normal unupgraded firecrackers but probably not the blue smoke version which Wolf has access to here.

He absolutely can. Sisyphus before he pulls out Destroy! explosions, Gabe before he fully enters his stance to slash, or Guttertank as it falls, etc. it's all about the Feedbacker's actual ability, which is more than just reflecting stuff. And why wouldn't he be able to parry the blue smoke version? They are literally the same thing when we are talking about V1 being able to parry both before and after the attack has occurred

We can see the arm didn't actually get switched despite the icon showing that it did though so... probably not. Also, would Mikiri Counter even count as an attack? If not then V1 is just gonna do a normal punch instead of a parry.

Bro if the icon is changing then it clearly means they're switching. If not, what's the point of that icon's existence, it even has the sound of them switching so there's that. And if Guttertank's cute little fall counts as a parriable "attack" then there’s no way a freaking stomp didn’t

 

[Jerry59]

Depends on what type of umbrella was used. Fair enough for the regular, but both flame umbrellas can't be parried, as per your words saying that he can't parry actual fire or something. Another thing is that he can save the charge for later and fire it whenever he wants. Thirdly is that Sekiro would most likely use it in melee range, especially immediately after a parry/block.

He cannot parry fire like the Streetcleaner's flamethrower probably because it spreads (and maybe also because gameplay slop is a thing). However V1 can still punch away hyperconcentrated heat pellets and huge energy projectiles aka literal air

 

[Jerry59]

Ping pong and kiss?

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[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[ProbNotAFelon]

I'm still confused how V1 is supposed to get past Wolf's immortality. Yeah he could theoretically take the Mortal Blade, but he doesn't have the LS for that, he would need to somehow deduce that the sword stops immortality, and I'm pretty sure it's not in-character for him to take weapons from his opponents mid-battle.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I'm still confused how V1 is supposed to get past Wolf's immortality. Yeah he could theoretically take the Mortal Blade, but he doesn't have the LS for that, he would need to somehow deduce that the sword stops immortality, and I'm pretty sure it's not in-character for him to take weapons from his opponents mid-battle.

Also, Wolf can get up instantly at least once in the fight. This can actually be a tactic of his, as he has the tool "bite down", allowing Sekiro to kill himself and trick the enemy. He can revive after this, and go for a deathblow once their back is turned.

 

[Jerry59]

I'm still confused how V1 is supposed to get past Wolf's immortality. Yeah he could theoretically take the Mortal Blade, but he doesn't have the LS for that, he would need to somehow deduce that the sword stops immortality, and I'm pretty sure it's not in-character for him to take weapons from his opponents mid-battle.

Funny how you mention that because I'm pretty sure I already said it's not an option at all yeah. His immortality still has a weakness, doesn’t it? With that weakness V1's actual wincon is to kill Sekiro enough times to make him unconscious for an hour, which counts as KO (might ask AThe about this idk). Not talking about who has a better chance of achieving their wincons btw, since I dunno either

Also, Wolf can get up instantly at least once in the fight. This can actually be a tactic of his, as he has the tool "bite down", allowing Sekiro to kill himself and trick the enemy. He can revive after this, and go for a deathblow once their back is turned.

V1 has fought tons of dudes who can ambush from the dark, behind and whatnot. This walking GoPro is literally built for battlefields, fighting enemies coming at him from all sides and has actual experience with it. And V1 isn’t stupid, would he really see a dude kill himself mid-fight, then slide away at top speed assume it was nothing? He’s also a genocidal machine determined to find blood for fuel, so good luck pulling that off and basically giving him tens of liters of free red juice even if only for a sec

 

[Shadowslash125]

Not talking about who has a better chance of achieving their wincons btw, since I dunno either

Oh yea, casting my vote to incon because it's way too even and it'll be funny
It's subject to change depending on the arguments (Might not say much here but I'm keeping track)

 

[AThe1412]

Yeah, I'll be voting Inconclusive FRA as well.

Funny how you mention that because I'm pretty sure I already said it's not an option at all yeah. His immortality still has a weakness, doesn’t it? With that weakness V1's actual wincon is to kill Sekiro enough times to make him unconscious for an hour, which counts as KO (might ask AThe about this idk). Not talking about who has a better chance of achieving their wincons btw, since I dunno either

It works. We see it at the start of the game when Genichiro killed Wolf and it skipped to him waking up in the morning even though it was clearly night time when he fought Geni.

 

[Jerry59]

Yeah, I'll be voting Inconclusive FRA as well.

Oh yea, casting my vote to incon because it's way too even
It's subject to change depending on the arguments (Might not say much here but I'm keeping track)

Counted

and it'll be funny

V1xWOLF YAOI LET'S ******* GOOOO GRAAAAAAAAH

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Gosh, why didn't I think of that! Incon FRA