is he getting some drastic tier changes?
His base form is. Don't see how it changes anything here tbh
is the guy THAT strong???? i'd like to at least discuss what sonic can bring up
haxes mostly, some of which can change the result of the match
Yeah... He is agreed to Stomp both Extella Saber and even BB (Fate)...
I kinda cooked with this one
same! dude couldn't even beat xeno trunks before and now he might stomp sonic...
I kinda cooked with this one
Anyways since I don't see it Doom Guy should be able to one shot with his layered 6D CM1 attacks, can Sonic deal with those?
we should put this on hold tbh
Now all of Dragon Ball verse is COOOKED with new Doomguy... Yes sir
It is because fate profiles is ass and almost no fate supporters debate the match
He din't trought? No one agreed that he stomped BB. The contrary happened.
Bro chose violence
Actually the OP had to change the location to make it fair so yeah he kinda did stomp
Some are still in the works, obviously, but I'm pretty sure all of the significant ones for this match are out of the way.
Does Sonic resists Essence hax with a layer? If not any of Doom Guys punches would one shot Sonic
"Essence hax"?
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.......you should know i don't know doom to know what "essence hax" is, regardless, Sonic's Explossivr Cyber Corruption aura would blow him away and Info Manip type 2 based corrupt him, so punching is not a very good idea......specially with Sonic's statue you speed amps and 4x higher reactions, which would make him dodge anyway
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he doesn't resist Corruption on an Info type 2 level, that in this form is imbued in Sonic's own Chaos Energy, which is.....conceptual is a very much deep levels, much more than normal concepts.........so unless his resistance is that specific, this won't work, and No? why should it? Sonic had a shit ton of will power and that didn't help
In how much time? Sonic just needs enough time to hit him once and end it with his Info Manip or Non Existent Erasure, and also.........if his AD makes him blitz where he ussually shouldn't, then by all means, this thread can't go through due to speed equal rules
i see.......honestly not seeing much it can do to Sonic, Sonic pretty much resists all of it, and even Concept Manip won't help, Sonic has fundamental layers that makes it way more potent than what Doom Guy can dish outBtw this is Essence hax
Essence (DOOM)
The Essence section is made by Gewsbumpz dude, link to his blog and the original. The Argent Energy, Sentinel Energy and Hell Essence sections were made by ShionAH and SpicyPlatinum. To give a simple explanation on what Essence is, it is essentially a fundamental force for living beings in DOOM...
this as well
Just noting Modern Sonic's AD scales off his Classic self that allowed him to do the same (jump from FTL to Infinite).
"Does Sonic resist all that hax with a layer?" This was the question
Idk about Sonic but Doom Guys willpower and rage allows him to overcome higher dimensional hax, layers and god hax (which is concept, information and plot according to the wiki)
Its instant, btw the AD never actually allowed Doom Guy to blitz. It seems more like it makes him relative in speed and superior in other stats.
So I assume their ADs just counter eachother and make it a non factor.
1 the important ones like Concept manip is a yes
And Sonic can do the same, Cyber Corruption is that, also........Willpower isn't measured by the hax it allows you to resist, that is verse specific, and certainly doesn't allow you to resist Conceptual hax far more potent than anything in your verse.....also "God hax"?
It makes him forget who he is and what he is doing, so no rage, it forces his body into a non existent state, so he can't interact with anything, and forces his emotional state to go haiwire, so no rage, also Sonic can destroy emotions...........also no resistance to Info type 2 for that to even matter here to begin with, so he will be affected and have nothing to fight against it, unless you show me him resisting Info type 2, and better yet, Conceptual hax of the likes that are fundamentally more layered than the ones in his verse
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So is Sonic's, so they will always be about even here, Sonic's always natural 4x higher reaction speed + Enormous Speed Amps making him always have the advantage tho, as if Doom Guy grows to that level? Sonic does as well
So my earlier statement about Sonic's speed amps making the difference here is accurate? Cuz Sonic's speed amps are so far above 4x that he sees people a blitz faster than 4x himself as frozen, that is just the Spin Dash......and then he has his Boost, which is even faster, then his Super Sonic Boost, which is even faster
yeah, so i guess the speed amps that Sonic has would give him the advantage
