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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

I plan to get Marvel to 0. I did already make a thread:
VeryGoofyToddler2

Thread 'Divine Creator (Marvel Comics) Profile'

I just have to say that I do not believe that the Divine Creator and the One Above All should be the same thing. This is why I believe with my reasoning which I will present would elude to a profile separation and a new one for the Divine Creator.

The creator of the character is J.M. DeMatteis and he has been adamant when it comes to his “God” characters to which the Divine Creator is. As he states he sees God as something that surpasses and contains everyone including the Void(Oblivion) and all of those are illusion and he embodies the true reality beyond everything. This is...
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Then I moved it to this thread:
VeryGoofyToddler2

Thread 'J.M. DeMatteis (Marvel Cosmology Split)'

As some of you may understand I have been advocating with Ultima after this tiering system revision was being applied that DeMatteis's story isn't very congruent with the main Cosmology. While authors like Hickman, Ewing, and many others seem to at least follow a certain contunity with their storytelling by incorporating the works of others, that can't really be said for DeMatteis. J.M. DeMatteis usually always writes his story specific to his belief and on story that focuses on “Creation” does it really show.

Thus, this thread is intended to split J.M. DeMatteis's work from the main...
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Both were accepted. Technically, speaking I could do the changes now especially wondering Ultima said all DeMatteis “God” is 0 without issue.
 
I swear, the first issue of Gwenpool Strikes Back is giving me a headache, I don't understand what's happening, like, at all.
 
I literally don't get the sequence of events, it's so damn confusing, Unbelievable Gwenpool was surprisingly linear, I don't know how to explain it.
Also, they kinda threw in the toilet her whole personal journey and character evolution...
 
SamanPatou said:
I literally don't get the sequence of events, it's so damn confusing, Unbelievable Gwenpool was surprisingly linear, I don't know how to explain it.
Also, they kinda threw in the toilet her whole personal journey and character evolution...
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They apparently have need to have her constantly seeking attention... She just came out as assexual.
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
speed given here for Thor?
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lowball.
but decent and this is semi unrelated

But Thor and Surfer both have blatant infinite speed feats on their profiles that are given to them as MFTL+ instead. Why is that?

Speed: Massively FTL+ (Flew through 500,000 light-years in a short timeframe. Crossed the universe. Flew galactic distances in a panel. Crossed the universe in minutes. Searched through the entire galaxy in seconds. Visited every planet across numerous galaxies in hours)

Speed: Massively FTL+ (Can regularly travel across the universe or between the Nine Realms without the aid of the Bifrost in a very short amount of time. The Nine Realms are shown to be separate universes, Crossed several lightyears nigh-instantly)
 
MadeByZiggy said:
lowball.
but decent and this is semi unrelated

But Thor and Surfer both have blatant infinite speed feats on their profiles that are given to them as MFTL+ instead. Why is that?

Speed: Massively FTL+ (Flew through 500,000 light-years in a short timeframe. Crossed the universe. Flew galactic distances in a panel. Crossed the universe in minutes. Searched through the entire galaxy in seconds. Visited every planet across numerous galaxies in hours)

Speed: Massively FTL+ (Can regularly travel across the universe or between the Nine Realms without the aid of the Bifrost in a very short amount of time. The Nine Realms are shown to be separate universes, Crossed several lightyears nigh-instantly)
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Honestly High 3-A (or the would be Low 1-C) should have at least MFTL++++++ to Infinite
 
HenshinIntervention said:
I don't remember seeing that
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Averroes1

Thread 'Marvel Comics: The Infinite Universe'

These marvel upgrades are taking a strain on my mental health.

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and its also on the verse page
 
Oh btw if it helps for Franklin's range and confirmation of his feats, Baby Franklin is referred to as viewing the entirety of the Universe by Reed in the same manner as a child looks at a playtoy. Keep in mind this is Reed saying this, someone with vast knowledge of the Universe even back during V1 days, however, I don't know how much of the Universe was Reed aware of to determine if this is 1-A or High 1-B, because he knew of the Negative Zone at least.
 
By collecting each Marvel and DC reference they made to each other and every crossover ever made, would it be possible to create a working composite cosmology of the two of them?
 
MadeByZiggy said:
All over the cosmology page.
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Excellence616 said:
We already have an accepted thread for Infinite universe
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That thread is linked on the verse page under the explanation for why the observable Universe is finite and the whole Universe is infinite.

The Size of the Marvel Universe​

We consider the part of the Marvel universe that is possible for characters to travel within to have been proven to be finite, and to at the very least have a radius of 1 trillion lightyears.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_Comics#cite_note-Starbrand-1">[1]</a>

This is due to that it has very explicitly been established to have a border called The Crunch,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_Comics#cite_note-The_Crunch-2">[2]</a> to have a centre that Thanos was once transported to after being deprived of a cosmic cube,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_Comics#cite_note-Center_of_the_universe-3">[3]</a> and to have been reduced to 1/10th of its original size during the Reckoning War storyline.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_Comics#cite_note-Reckoning_War-4">[4]</a>

Although given the many, but unproven and likely allegorical, statements regarding that the entirety of the universe as a whole is infinite, we also consider the complete universal space-time continuum to be literally endless in all spatial directions via the void that should logically surround The Crunch border. It was also discussed in this thread.
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Low Complex Multiverse level normally (Superior to Eric Masterson and Dargo Ktor whose battle unleashed mystical energy across all planes of existence, and fully powered a machine that could collapse infinite timelines into one<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-39">[37]</a>. Consistently an equal to Hercules,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-40">[38]</a> and his battle with Hercules threatened to destroy the Heavens<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-41">[39]</a>. Wrestled with the World-Serpent while it was bridging the gap between Asgard and the Earth with its length, <a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-42">[40]</a> with the two being spaced apart by an infinite distance, and himself created a storm so powerful that its winds reached the Earth from Asgard. Bested Ego with his Thermo-Blast<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-43">[41]</a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-44">[Note 3]</a>),
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I think we should also use this feat as justifications for 5D:
This feat and the one where Thor and Hercules shake Olympus are enough to justify the 5D AP tbh.
 
Is anyone interested in Iron man going to talk about model 70? Why does it have 2 keys but not actually since it doesn't have any separation for his stats?
 
Tllmbrg

Thread 'Busters (Model 36, 38) CRT'

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Model 38:
Added more scans, and elaborated on stuff in P&As. Also added energy manipulation.
Gave it an actual range rating and also gave it an attack speed rating (Unless one wants to assume that the Phoenix Force just decided to stand there and tank it)

Model 36:
Total stat changes, there is no reason to scale it to Planet Level from the known information.
1. Hulk was not weakened at all, his anti-gamma was replaced with a fake (Avengers: The Initiative Issue 4)
2. It clashed with Hulk...
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The_2nd_Existential_Seed said:
I... don't inherently have an issue with it. I know it's known on the wiki as the king of Outliers, but Starbrand is consistently referred to as an ultimate weapon with it's only limit being it's imagination, and the greatest users of it consistently had absurd feats.
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I didn't really expect his base self to scale to tier 1 but maybe have him scaling as a limit after all it was made by self destruction using everything he had.
 
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