The Player (Minecraft) vs. Asriel Dreemurr

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

They were already implemented though.

 

[DMB_1]

Asriel has already been downgraded.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Player dodges.
And his erasure is really fast.

K then. Anyway, Player FRA.

 

[Vsguy75]

Player FRA

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Frisk's best feat is slightly harming Flowey, and MC's level of 2-B is far higher than UT, afaik. Even then, 3-D hax on 4-D The Player.

Isnt UT in the endless but not infinite bunch? He cant really be above that whiteout being 2A

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

>Endless but not Infinite

Oxymoron tho

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Contradictory it may be, its a thing.

It has no set limit, but we cannot asume it to be infinite.

 

[DMB_1]

We need one more vote so that the Player can solo any Undertale 2-B.

Well, almost...

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Exact same thing as Minecraft if we're going that road then. But pretty sure UT isn't on that level, otherwise the 2-C stats wouldn't be there.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Exact same thing as Minecraft if we're going that road then. But pretty sure UT isn't on that level, otherwise the 2-C stats wouldn't be there.

Thats like me saying minecrafts 2B rating is not valid because he is possibly 2c.

And chara is 2C, flowey is plain out 2B, and I am not saying minecraft isnt, but the player does not have ap advantage.

Thag said, asriel has zero ways to win, as hes hax are countered by sheer AP here

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

UT is 2-C, likely 2-B solely due to the number of timeline being uncertain. If it truly was endless like you said, I really doubt we would need the 2-C stats at all.

Minecraft's 2-C stats, on the other hand, is under the assumption that the other worlds don't exist. It's either just 3 worlds or almost-endless here.

Only Asriel is plain 2-B though. Flowey is still 2-C, likely 2-B

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And... This is asriel still. It is uncertain because there is the chance that chara only destroyed one timeline instead of all of them, not because there are only a few timelines.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I vote Asriel because goats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minecraft. Fite me ovo.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

@Ricsi And we were talking about how Asriel can't null The Player, due to them being > Frisk, who overpowered said PN

@Cal Wait till Minecraft add goats and then you'll be screwed.

 

[RRTheEndMan]

Wait, may you remind me why is the player 2-B for creating/destroying 3 dimensions/hit?

 

[DMB_1]

But Minecraft has Sheeps. They even come in different colors.

And Llamas.

ovo

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yes, but you said that MCs 2B is higher then UTs, which is not true, even then, asriel has no way to win

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

@RR Created a world which contains all the possible Minecraft worlds (Which has no set limits but can't be infinite)

@Ricsi It is, except for Asriel, but Asriel isn't the one with the feats anyway.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But... Every 2B in UT scales to that, 2B comes from chara destroying all realities

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Chara is, at best, equal to the player (A claim that I have yet to receive any proofs of). Only Asriel is certainly above any MC 2-B.

 

[RRTheEndMan]

@RR Created a world which contains all the possible Minecraft worlds (Which has no set limits but can't be infinite)

@Ricsi It is, except for Asriel, but Asriel isn't the one with the feats anyway.

He can destroy/create only three worlds at time tho
It's like upgrading Trump to Island level since he's got many town level attacks

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Chara is 2C assuming they destroywd one timeline or 2B assuming they destroyed all timelines, which are equal to every reset, which the player can do in an unlimited manner

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

RRT no, the player dreamed them into being real, at once, not with many small actions

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

@RR He created the world that contains all those worlds in the first place though. It's just that his hax and most direct attacks can only affect a few at a time, but his full AP scales to everything.

@Ricsi Except that 2-C is many timeline, and Low 2-C is only one.

 

[RRTheEndMan]

RRT no, the player dreamed them into being real, at once, not with many small actions

We're derailing, but you have to manually create worlds

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yes, because its not known if the timelines made by the player can be counted in. Which is why its a lowball, as agreed on the thread.

And again, a lowball does not change the fact that charas 2B rating is on the same level as the player

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

The Player can create the space which contains these worlds, just not all the worlds themselves at once.

 

[DodoNova2]

He can destroy/create only three worlds at time tho
It's like upgrading Trump to Island level since he's got many town level attacks

 

[Jinsye]

Dodo, vote now

 

[DodoNova2]

No problemo

The player Take this Mid/Low Diff

 

[RRTheEndMan]

The Player can create the space which contains these worlds, just not all the worlds themselves at once.

since when?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Since 2011 approximately. They're stated to have created a "Small, private world", which contains the Minecraft verse as a whole, including all the individual worlds.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Again, ariel cannot win

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I mean he can if he hits hard enough. It's just extremely unlikely to happen.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Ressurection laugh at that

 

[RRTheEndMan]

Since 2011 approximately. They're stated to have created a "Small, private world", which contains the Minecraft verse as a whole, including all the individual worlds.

Scans?

 

[Rikimarox2]

The Player FRA.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

"And the player moves through a story, which is a forest of information planted by a man called Julian, on a flat, infinite world created by a man called Markus, that exists inside a small, private world created by the player, who inhabits a universe created by..."

@Ricsi Not sure if Tier 2 player can come back from Soul destruction (which Asriel should be able to do easily). Resurrection is just kinda weird right now for The Player to be honest.

 

[RRTheEndMan]

"And the player moves through a story, which is a forest of information planted by a man called Julian, on a flat, infinite world created by a man called Markus, that exists inside a small, private world created by the player, who inhabits a universe created by..."

still, no mention of a multiverse here

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

The world created by Markus is obviously Minecraft itself. And the other worlds were acknowledged as canon numerous times, notably in the Mobestiary.