The Plants vs Zombies Feat Gathering Thread

[Jamesthetaker]

So, should we make those changes immediately or should we wait until everything in this thread been accepted?

I mean, the new scaling chain for Pvz 1?

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

It's good but on the other hand what we will do with the comics that we don't find online, since they have many more feats for the verse.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

So apparently, Neighbourville is canon to PvZ 3

Should we reconsider the canonicity thing?

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Can you explain that more to me? I watch the video but i don't see anything of it are related to Neighourville.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

The location of the game is literally Neighbourville.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Actually, i do some research and found out that Neighborville is the name used for both GW and canon timelines setting. You can see here, the place look different on both timelines. So BFN doesn't have anything to do with Pvz 3.

Also, i want to ask again: Could the scaling chain for Pvz 1 applied now? As for now, only Lawnmageddon is other media that Pvz 1 adapt into, there's a guide book too but it only contain miscellaneous fact about them, nothing else. All feats from the comic is already listed above.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Another proof showing that Neighbourville is just the name reference to the city that take place instead of entire BFN game .

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Bump.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Tbh they should all be canon.

Battle for Neighborville contains Crazy Dave's mansion, which is shown in the comics, down to the giant fan on top.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Also we're missing two major feats.

https://***************.to/Comic/Plants-vs-Zombies-Boom-Boom-Mushroom/Issue-12?id=63616#9

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Doom Shroom's feat unfortunately can't be calced as there's nothing to scale the explosion off of. I already asked Drite.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

That's not the Doom Shroom, that's the Boom Boom Mushroom.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

if I remember correctly, pvz 3 has with it the existence of both pvz heroes and battle for neighborville plants, not only that but these same ones retain their abilities.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Are any more Zombots in it?

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

from what I can see, zombie heroes have their own zombies, like other mini-bosses.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Also what's the AP for flooding the core of the Earth? Because that's what Neptuna did.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

Well, you could ask someone who knows about calculus to do that.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

https://plantsvszombies.fandom.com/wiki/File:YepShouldNeMainAnatagonistInASeries.PNG


and how do we consider this for heroes?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Battle for Neighbourville plants are in PvZ 3, legs and all. I think it's safe to say that BfN is canon to the main series.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

and not only that many of the sectors in pvz 3 make references to pvz bfn as some of the zombies that appear.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

So, the timelines of Pvz been changed. Seem like many characters from other Pvz games make their appearance in Pvz 3 as well (Heroes, BFN, Adventure).

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Bumping this because i want this to be done.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Well, now that we know that everything is canon, we need to find out tiers and hierarchy.

We need to lay out feats from every game and find out who scales. Let's start with the low tiers from the first game. Should they be 9-B?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Also, if I remember correctly, Garden Warfare skin descriptions are canon. This means we might have to entertain the possibility of Low 2-C plants like before.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

>9-B

Haha, no.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

So, here is some feats i've gathered for Pvz 1:
- Normal Peashooter can knock away zombies head (9-B) (Scales to most of casual plants/zombies)

- Digger Zombie can dig itself out from underground (9-B ) (Same as above)

- Zombie Yeti can punch a fist-sized hole (9-B ) (Same as above)

- Winter Melo can froze zombies solid (9-A ) (Scales to high-tier plants/zombies only)

Quotes this again.

@Super Ascended Sean Pazdera

Can you elaborate why?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Alright, now for PvZ 2 scaling. We know that there are 8-C plants, the question is does everyone scale to them?

I know for a fact that some plants should scale even higher, like Doom Shroom, Lava Guava, etc. Some plants can even kill Gargantuars with little effort.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

As show here , Lightning Reed actual cloud lightning is his strongest attack which mean that normal plants like him should be weaker with normal attack.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Electric-Tea can also perform electric attacks and should scale. Zombies can harm both Electric-Tea and Lightning Reed, so should they scale? If so, other fodder plants should scale as well.

Some plants can kill multiple zombies at once, we should do an explosion calc with inverse square law on those.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Electric Pea attacks deals the same damage as Lightning Reed normal attacks which is only 10 damage, lower than actual cloud lightning which deals 160 damage.

I could try to calcs those explosive if i can.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Sorry my mistake, you was talking about Electric-Tea, right? Well, seeing how it can easily one-shot most of normal zombies i don't think Electric-Tea should scale to lower plant like Lightning Reed, plus it got 950 damage which far superior than it. On other hands, Electric-Tea durability is weaker than it strength so no, AP isn't scaling to durability.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

the vast majority of explosive plants should climb to 8-C without any problems, blue-berry because it can shoot gargantuans very easily.

Squash can do enormous damage to the gargantuans

Although this may change due to the improvements of the plants making it even stronger than their versions of the pvz 1.

the spring-bean with a nutrient-enhanced jump can make zombies jump just enough for blover to send them flying.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

...Why are you using Gargantuars to scale, and not the Zombots, which can oneshot them? You know, the ones basically any Plant can fight?

Also, Electric Blueberry can oneshot Gargantuars.

Electricitea, not Electric-Tea.

Seriously, if we don't have all the feats, this feat gathering thread is going to leave our profiles even weaker than before.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Also, Penny now has feats thanks to Penny's Pursuit.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Electric Pea attacks deals the same damage as Lightning Reed normal attacks which is only 10 damage, lower than actual cloud lightning which deals 160 damage

This again, i think that since the lightning feat was done by Lightning Reed strongest move, his normal would be weaker than this. Same thing for most of other plants like Peashooter,...

Any plants that deal damage beyond that should upscale them.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I could get someone to calc the AP of Doom Shroom blowing up zombies and see if that gives us anything. I'll be damned before I let the explosive plants be barely above 8-C.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

All Plants are 8-C anyways due to being able to kill Gargantuars, who didn't die from this, and due to defeating Zombots; any of which being able to instantly oneshot Gargantuars.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Destroying Gargantuars and Zombots is done with the full force of tons of plants. They most definitely aren't on the same level as a Zombot individually.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Which is why they're 8-C and not 8-B.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Where did the 8-B even come from?