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The pages for AKIRA are outdated as hell!!

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Cyberblader90 said:
ill wait on making a comment on that till i rewatch the film later today

whats the summary then on manga tetsuo and akira
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tetuso tiers should go like this
"Street level(similar to shotaro kaneda)At least Building level(toppled mutliple cargo crates and brought down a warehouse)At least large buidling level+(stronger than before, brought done an entire crane)City block level, higher when withdrawing from special pills(created city wide storms)Multi-continetal level(blew a hole in the moon)Possibly Planet level(Implied to eventually be able to destroy the planet)Unknown(similar to akira who created a pocket dimension, though whether there was a new timespace is unknown).
something like that but more revised, especially for volume 4 which still needs a few feats to be calced.
akira should just be unknown
 
Whycantinamemyself said:
tetuso tiers should go like this
"Street level(similar to shotaro kaneda)At least Building level(toppled mutliple cargo crates and brought down a warehouse)At least large buidling level+(stronger than before, brought done an entire crane)City block level, higher when withdrawing from special pills(created city wide storms)Multi-continetal level(blew a hole in the moon)Possibly Planet level(Implied to eventually be able to destroy the planet)Unknown(similar to akira who created a pocket dimension, though whether there was a new timespace is unknown).
something like that but more revised, especially for volume 4 which still needs a few feats to be calced.
akira should just be unknown
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You cannot use guesswork statistics. All of them need to be based on accepted calculations (although Planet level is self-evident enough to work anyway.)
Whycantinamemyself said:
and also..why is tetsuos manga quote a quote from the movie??
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You can remove it if you wish.
 
Antvasima said:
You cannot use guesswork statistics. All of them need to be based on accepted calculations (although Planet level is self-evident enough to work anyway.)

You can remove it if you wish.
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i used guessing for volume 4 because there are no calculations. there are calculations for his second key thouhgh.
 
Okay. If somebody lists the evidence for the (guesswork) "Building level" to "City Block level" feats, I can ask a few calc group members for help.
 
Whycantinamemyself said:
tetuso tiers should go like this
"Street level(similar to shotaro kaneda)At least Building level(toppled mutliple cargo crates and brought down a warehouse)At least large buidling level+(stronger than before, brought done an entire crane)City block level, higher when withdrawing from special pills(created city wide storms)Multi-continetal level(blew a hole in the moon)Possibly Planet level(Implied to eventually be able to destroy the planet)Unknown(similar to akira who created a pocket dimension, though whether there was a new timespace is unknown).
something like that but more revised, especially for volume 4 which still needs a few feats to be calced.
akira should just be unknown
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Can you list the evidence for all of the feats that you mentioned above except for the Multi-Continent level and Planet level ones please?
 
Antvasima said:
Can you list the evidence for all of the feats that you mentioned above except for the Multi-Continent level and Planet level ones please?
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before he took the pill he toppled mutliple cargo crates, and after he was shot he brought down an entire warehouse on kaneda, the warehouse was calced at a low end of city block level and at a high end of small town level. this is why i said my intial writing of his page(the one you just responed to) needed revisements, as i made it quite quickly without checking calcs. heres the calc im talking about https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...)_Calculations#Tetsuo_brings_down_a_warehouse has not been accepted yet
 
Thank you for helping out. The calculation results can probably be used then.
 
If he is just a very athletic regular human, 9-C is probably enough.
 
The page does not follow our standard format and is too sloppy looking, with poor grammar. Somebody else will have to create it. My apologies.
 
Whycantinamemyself said:
is there a way to find a rough estimate of AP through LS?
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I am not sure what our current exact standards regarding that are.

Here is our lifting strength page in any case:

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Lifting Strength

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words it measures the amount of upwards force a character can produce. As such pushing and pulling feats are also considered a part of this statistic, granted they are properly calculated to account for the...
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Small note: This calc should be corrected to use our new Planet Curvature scaling method since the full planet is not visible.

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Planet Curvature Scaling

For many feats of very high destructive power scaling from measuring sticks like humans, trees or even mountains becomes very difficult, because they are too small compared to the phenomenon we are scaling. For such feats scaling from the size of the planet itself can be of interest. However...
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Also Null, you wrote 3307 instead of 3207.
 
KLOL506 said:
Small note: This calc should be corrected to use our new Planet Curvature scaling method since the full planet is not visible.

vsbattles.fandom.com

Planet Curvature Scaling

For many feats of very high destructive power scaling from measuring sticks like humans, trees or even mountains becomes very difficult, because they are too small compared to the phenomenon we are scaling. For such feats scaling from the size of the planet itself can be of interest. However...
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Also Null, you wrote 3307 instead of 3207.
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@Nullflowerblush

Would you be willing to handle this please?
 
It seems like hyperbole, yes. Also, it is likely just the opinion of the editor for the English translation edition.
 
If you post scans for his most impressive feats, maybe Damage3245 or some other calc group member would be willing to help us out?
 
I have a serious problem with how the moon feat was accepted.
the ring that was made around moon was ignored despite the fact that theres no natural way this formed in the timeframe of hours/a day. its much more likely tetsuo made the ring after making the crater.
this could very well allow the higher end(the one that uses KE with the escape velocity of the moon)to be accepted and be possible.
 
Whycantinamemyself said:
I have a serious problem with how the moon feat was accepted.
the ring that was made around moon was ignored despite the fact that theres no natural way this formed in the timeframe of hours/a day. its much more likely tetsuo made the ring after making the crater.
this could very well allow the higher end(the one that uses KE with the escape velocity of the moon)to be accepted and be possible.
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you can see the blast is made, and then in the second panel rocks rise immensly beside the blast, the latency of the rocks rising make it seem like tetsuo pulled the rocks himself out of the moon. now this changes many about the feat itself and how i take it, i think the crater we see in the first panel, is the actual first crater made by the initial blast. this crater at a glance seems to be much more 6-C to high 6-B, and THEN tetsuo pulls out the rest of the crater we see later and makes a ring around the moon with it.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Tetsuo blasting the hole into the Moon and the debris being launched into orbit occurred over six pages.
Also, escape velocity is only used when an object escapes a celestial body's gravitational pull, but the rocks are still orbiting around the Moon.
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those debris were in small amounts at first, but a little bit after the initial blast you can see a very large amount of rock rising out of the moon next to the blast. in the last panel you provided we see this, and remember all these panels are minutes away from eachother so again it makes no sense that all these rocks were blown away upwards and formed an entire ring around the moon in less than a day. and i forgot to mention, with my reasoning it would make the escape velocity calc useless, so thats good.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Tetsuo blasting the hole into the Moon and the debris being launched into orbit occurred over six pages.
Also, escape velocity is only used when an object escapes a celestial body's gravitational pull, but the rocks are still orbiting around the Moon.
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So if it was a prolonged process, I suppose that it doesn't really reach 5-C level Watt (energy per second) output?
 
Antvasima said:
So if it was a prolonged process, I suppose that it doesn't really reach 5-C level Watt (energy per second) output?
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it was not a prolonged process, those pages are seconds/minutes apart from eachother. this should be backed up bu tetsuo and akira casually creating a magnitude 8.5 earthquake . this was certainly not done over a prolonged time and was a short timeframe.
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Okay. We usually scale from single strike energy outputs though, not prolonged processes.
 
Whycantinamemyself said:
it was not a prolonged process, those pages are seconds/minutes apart from eachother. this should be backed up bu tetsuo and akira casually creating a magnitude 8.5 earthquake casually. this was certainly not done over a prolonged time and was a short timeframe.
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this is supported by the fact that by the time the blast was visible from earth, people were sitll questioning whether tetsuo was talking about the moon in the sky. its also supported by the fact that the blast was already big enought to be seen from a far shot of the moon.
 
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