The Monument Mythos Discussion Thread

[Chritin]

So today, Mr. Manticore made a community post discussing the deletion of Seasons 3 & 4 of the MM. Long story short, both seasons aren’t coming back to their channel any time soon, so I think it’s time we answer the question. Should scaling from Seasons 3 & 4 be considered for profiles despite their deletions or not, or should we just wait to see what further developments are on the way?

 

[Emerald]

I believe we should wait and see

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Seasons 3 and 4 are on a second channel that he endorsed. He removed them for personal, family-related reasons, not that they're non-canon now.

 

[Chritin]

Here’s a Vs thread I made with the Crescent King if anyone’s interested.

 

[Chritin]

Hey y'all. I know there hasn't been much done with the verse here in a while, but I plan on coming back at some point to do some work and hopefully get the verse squared away. MM is in my top five of shit that's gotta get done, but I have other things on my plate like fixing all of the souls games and their scaling stuff.

Beyond that though, my plan is to go back through the entire series and do comprehensive rework/CRT that'll hopefully tie everything off with a neat little bow. Specifically, there's a lot with season 3 and Modern Day that needed to get added, and as stated before by Schroeder, I think its implied that they aren't necessarily cannon, but are still endorsed to where they probably deserve a key of some kind. There's also a few calcs I want to take a look at again, since some things could use some updating or verification by CGM.

Anyway, I'll keep y'all posted. It could be far down the line cause Elden Ring is probably gonna suck up most of the work time I have for VS stuff for a while (that Tarnished profile isn't getting done any time soon lol)

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Just got through seasons 1&2 pretty ******* crazy. Gonna binge nixonverse probably

 

[Chritin]

It's a pretty crazy, but amazing series. I gotta go through it again at some point, but it's on the lower half of my to-do list sadly.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Finished nixonverse, pretty crazy. The ending is easily up there with alacktrzaapocolysoe

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I think my only complaint is the d day knight and the last sone having the same desgin outline making it hard to differentiate the two like the d day knight should have horns since his wearing a helmet

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also is the absolute nixonverse cannon?

 

[Chritin]

Also is the absolute nixonverse cannon?

If profiles were updated with it, it would probably get its own key. It was published as a collaborative effort between Casanas and DanBC Films, and everywhere I look it seems to be a sort of alt-cannon. It removes some aspects of the original, while adding on new bits and pieces.

There's a LOT of cannon issues that need to get hammered out with MM stuff, especially considering the deletion of a lot of content over the years. Even more sleuthing needs to be done to dig up things like the old comment archives, which there are very limited resources for.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

If profiles were updated with it, it would probably get its own key. It was published as a collaborative effort between Casanas and DanBC Films, and everywhere I look it seems to be a sort of alt-cannon. It removes some aspects of the original, while adding on new bits and pieces.

There's a LOT of cannon issues that need to get hammered out with MM stuff, especially considering the deletion of a lot of content over the years. Even more sleuthing needs to be done to dig up things like the old comment archives, which there are very limited resources for.

Interesting so should I watch it now or after season 3?

I saw some comment screenshots on the monument mythos wiki

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also why dose Alcatraz’s crotch spawn have George Washington’s skull?

 

[Chritin]

Interesting so should I watch it now or after season 3?

Honestly, I haven't even watched it yet, but that might just be cause I prefer the mainline series to the Nixonverse. I'd say stick to just the main stuff right now tbh

I saw some comment screenshots on the monument mythos wiki

There are a literal ton, the only problem is that we don't really know what we don't know without the videos themselves. Plus there are Q&A's, post replies, and a few other things we'd need to take into account.

Also why dose Alcatraz’s crotch spawn have George Washington’s skull?

Nixon was able to survive the Great Division and killed a version of the Horned Serpent. The skull which the D-Day Knight wears is this skull. The reason's it's George Washington's is because in the Deanverse, the proverb about Washington cutting down a cherry tree was only partially true. The tree he did try to cut down was instead a Special Tree, which activated and dragged him into wonderland. This stretched his body out and made him the Horned Serpent.

How did the Horned Serpent do this if it technically wasn't even made yet? Time shenanigans, but also I haven't sat down and gone through the series in a while so I could be rusty on details.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Honestly, I haven't even watched it yet, but that might just be cause I prefer the mainline series to the Nixonverse. I'd say stick to just the main stuff right now tbh

I mean, the nixonverse is kinda mainline stuff no? It’s pretty much just the aftermath of the deanverse

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also is Nixon killing the serapent like in the QnA’s cuz the converse didn’t show that

 

[Chritin]

I mean, the nixonverse is kinda mainline stuff no? It’s pretty much just the aftermath of the deanverse

Yes and no. It was, but then got fictionalized. It technically didn't happen anymore, or basically got retconned into being a comic book in series.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Yes and no. It was, but then got fictionalized. It technically didn't happen anymore, or basically got retconned into being a comic book in series.

True, but it still technically happened in a sense

 

[Chritin]

True, but it still technically happened in a sense

Oh yeah definitely, but is akin to just a pruned timeline.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Finished s3, another great ending. And kind of a breath of fresh air with it being just a straight up good ending

 

[Greatsage13th]

neat, the thread is alive again.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Got through modern day, not really sure how I feel about it. Looking at some explanations and still digesting the season as a whole

 

[Chritin]

Got through modern day, not really sure how I feel about it. Looking at some explanations and still digesting the season as a whole

It's very weird and very different. I still haven't ever wrapped my head around it

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Currently watching AAF, pretty solid so far. Feels like a better version of modern day. Also at this point, the Nixonverse is pretty important to watch tbh. Especially with the Alcatraz stuff and certain terminology and characters.

 

[Chritin]

Currently watching AAF, pretty solid so far. Feels like a better version of modern day. Also at this point, the Nixonverse is pretty important to watch tbh. Especially with the Alcatraz stuff and certain terminology and characters.

Lowkey might be my next project after Elden Ring is sorted (so in like a few months lol)

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Caught all the way up to the mythos, looks like we’re getting some more Nixon content soon

 

[Greatsage13th]

So what's new after the defeat of the horned serpent?

 

[Tyranno223]

So what's new after the defeat of the horned serpent?

Nixon is... Superman? Not sure. Not like Last Son, maybe Nixon directly this time.

Depends on if the Nixonworld is the Nixenverse or something close enough I guess.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Nixon is... Superman? Not sure. Not like Last Son, maybe Nixon directly this time.

Depends on if the Nixonworld is the Nixenverse or something close enough I guess.

Ah.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

So what's new after the defeat of the horned serpent?

You mean the Martian one?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also being looking around for the QnA thing that says angel needed the Giza glass to blow up the planet or something

 

[Greatsage13th]

You mean the Martian one?

That's the martian one?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

That's the martian one?

If your talking about the one the got destroyed by the more perfect union then yes

 

[Greatsage13th]

If your talking about the one the got destroyed by the more perfect union then yes

I see.

 

[Greatsage13th]

And if I may inquire, what happened to the whole Ningen thing?

 

[Chritin]

And if I may inquire, what happened to the whole Ningen thing?

It's its own thing. Sort of like the Perfect Youniverse he did, the Ningen is just a different project and not connected to MM all together.

 

[Greatsage13th]

It's its own thing. Sort of like the Perfect Youniverse he did, the Ningen is just a different project and not connected to MM all together.

I see, I see. ANd what was the Youniverse thing about?

 

[Chritin]

I see, I see. ANd what was the Youniverse thing about?

Just a different series Eve created in the past that they brought back.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Eve?

 

[Chritin]

Eve?

Eve is Alex / Mr. Manticore / M4NTICO3. A year or so ago they came out as a trans-woman.