The King Kong Gun Calc is Blatantly Wrong

[ElajRuengies]

The accepted Calc (here) for the King Kong Gun takes the value for the Moment of Inertia from a previous Calc (here) which squares the wrong value.

Moment of Inertia (assuming a point like mass) is determined by [Mass * (Distance to Rotational Axis)^2] (source), however, the blog doesn't square the distance to the rotational axis, it squares the mass!

I = wm2

• w = 84 m
• m = 3.04e9 kg

84*(3.04e9)^2 = 7.76e20 kg m^2

As a result, the inertia mass of land that gets folded becomes comparable to the mass of the Dwarf Planet Ceres (9.1*10^20 kg) (Seriously, how did nobody in this thread catch this???)

The proper inertial mass should be-

• 3.04e9 * 84^2 = 2.145024×10^13 kg*m2
• Not 7.76 * 10^20 kg*m2

In other words, the current King Kong Gun calc (210 Gigatons) is 36,176,751.4 times higher than what it should be, or 5.8 Kilotons / baseline Town level.

(I wish I could say April Fools...)

 

[KingTempest]

Moved to calc group discussion

 

[ElajRuengies]

Moved to calc group discussion

Oh whoops, sorry about that!

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Oof Size: L A R G E

 

[ElajRuengies]

Oof Size: L A R G E

Still a less embarrassing miss than Ussop's Healing via Toad Oil

 

[speedster352]

I agree fra

 

[ElajRuengies]

Oof Size: L A R G E

Also could you @ other calc group members please? I don't know how this affects the scaling or profiles, but it needs to get fixed ASAP

 

[SnookB]

Also could you @ other calc group members please? I don't know how this affects the scaling or profiles, but it needs to get fixed ASAP

Doesn't effect anyone but Luffy. No mid-tiers scale and no god-tiers scale. KKG should've always had just a G3 multiplier imo. At best it was a one-shot amp

 

[Jibz]

God this wiki can genuinely be hilarious: Ussop getting healing via a scam, one chick beating up 8 dudes at once and a Luffy calc 36,176,751.4 times higher than what it should be. Only thing more funny would be the strongest tier 0 character on the wiki having a completely wrong justification, but that can't be true, right?

 

[SnookB]

Ussop getting healing via a scam,

Usopp is so good at lying even the wiki fell for it. That's a W in my book

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Like I said in the healing thread, Usopp should get Tier -1 Social Influencing.

 

[Damage3245]

I see... I must admit I had a suspicion that something was up with the calc to get that kind of result but didn't spot the actual issue.

Well spotted.

I suppose since Luffy's profile is the only one affected we just need to remove the calc from Luffy and the verse page.

 

[Myguy]

funny

 

[Livinmeme]

God this wiki can genuinely be hilarious: Ussop getting healing via a scam, one chick beating up 8 dudes at once and a Luffy calc 36,176,751.4 times higher than what it should be. Only thing more funny would be the strongest tier 0 character on the wiki having a completely wrong justification, but that can't be true, right?

Rando fodders having a better profiles than the protagonists, and a prota who is so forgetable it took 4 months to realize his rating was outdated

Also reinhard wank was real funny

 

[ElajRuengies]

I see... I must admit I had a suspicion that something was up with the calc to get that kind of result but didn't spot the actual issue.

Well spotted.

I suppose since Luffy's profile is the only one affected we just need to remove the calc from Luffy and the verse page.

Alright then, that sounds like a quick fix. I removed it from the Verse Page- can someone unlock Post-Timeskip Luffy's profile?

 

[SnookB]

Alright then, that sounds like a quick fix. I removed it from the Verse Page- can someone unlock Post-Timeskip Luffy's profile?

Remember to add the original value to the KKG AP. I can't find the thread, but it originally scaled x4 higher than Gear Four IIRC

 

[ElajRuengies]

Remember to add the original value to the KKG AP. I can't find the thread, but it originally scaled x4 higher than Gear Four IIRC

Should I have also added back in these notes on the Verse's page?

*The lower High 7-A's like [[Monkey D. Luffy (Post-Timeskip)|Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy]] are scaled 9x stronger than the [https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ck_on_a_big_Island#Doflamingo.27s_String_Dura Doflamingo Durability's Calc] ('''1.103 Gigatons''')
*The higher High 7-A's like [[Monkey D. Luffy (Post-Timeskip)|Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks]] are scaled to be 16x stronger than the [https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ck_on_a_big_Island#Doflamingo.27s_String_Dura Doflamingo Durability's Calc] ('''1.961 Gigatons''')
*The 6-C's like [[Monkey D. Luffy (Post-Timeskip)|Post-Katakuri Fight Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks]] are scaled to be at least 4x stronger than the lower High 7-A's ('''4.412 Gigatons''')

 

[ElajRuengies]

(In fact, should someone else more experienced with the Verse do this?)

 

[SnookB]

Should I have also added back in these notes on the Verse's page?

Yeah, if it's possible to just add it back to before it was edited into the high 6-C, then that's the best option I think. (As KKG was the only major change for Luffy and the 6-C addition). Unelss any mod has something to change/edit

 

[ElajRuengies]

Bump (Any mod opinion on this?)

 

[Majinere566]

Looks good

 

[ElajRuengies]

Made the CRT here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/king-kong-gun-removal-luffys-strongest-attacks-revision.134305/

 

[KingTempest]

That didn't need a new thread...

 

[ElajRuengies]

Alright looks like it's been fixed. This thread can be closed now