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The Flames Swordman VS Knight among Knight

I'm pretty sure Murasame poison can't do shit since Touma here is armored
Also Elemental Intangtibility, how she can bypass that?
 
If you're skill enough you might caught him off guard like Durendal.

So, good luck with that.
 
To be fair, I either pit her against someone that die to her poison like Revice and cos.

Or Zero-One Rider.

Other High 6-C Saber characters would one-shot her via hax (Sabela matter cut, Durendal Time Skip, Blades AZ attacks) with Saber the only one that doesn't immediately bodied her via hax.

And the rest are Zero-One Rider.
 
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First of all, I am pretty sure that Knight among Knights is the title of Reinhard's friend. Sword Saint, would fit more. Also, I am pretty sure Reinhard can't deal with layered intang either.
 
I think Saber can deal with Reinhard's type 8 immortality by the good ol' fashion way of removing Reinhard's limbs since I don't think his revive powers have any feats of restoring limbs when coming back to life... for now. Like... Saber likely can't kill him, but he can leave him harmless by reducing Rein to a limbless state.
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
However in skill, i think both of them are comparable
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Words.

FantaRin_The_First said:
I think Saber can deal with Reinhard's type 8 immortality by the good ol' fashion way of removing Reinhard's limbs since I don't think his revive powers have any feats of restoring limbs when coming back to life... for now. Like... Saber likely can't kill him, but he can leave him harmless by reducing Rein to a limbless state.
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Can't Reinhard asked for a blessing to be able to hit Saber? It isn't something extremely powerful and sound like some sort of utility that he could have.

Also, while Saber has never neg Type 8 he has ****** with Type 4 with Low-Godly regen before.
 
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Nah, ignoring that it sounds too NFL, Reinhard doesn't even have NPI in the first place- nor has the series showcased any Divine Protections (his blessings) that showcase the power of NPI.

Idk. Up to you. Or somebody with more knowhow in this topic.
 
Swordplays and various elementals attacks including clading his sword or limbs in element which extended his sword range, yeet it as a projectile, spawn element underneath opponent's feet and whatnot.
 
You need hax to actually hit Reinhard, though. His entire character is being bullshit.
  • Initiative: He cannot be ambushed, and all initial attacks from Reinhard connect.
  • First Attack Immunity: The first time an attack is performed at Reinhardt, he automatically dodges regardless of his awareness of the attack. The blessing will wake him up even if he's asleep.
  • Proceeding Attack Immunity: The second attack and all following attacks miss him, as he automatically dodges them with vastly greater speed than the first time.
  • Arrow Avoidance: Projectiles and long-distance attacks can not hit him.
 
shansome said:
You need hax to actually hit Reinhard, though. His entire character is being bullshit.
  • Initiative: He cannot be ambushed, and all initial attacks from Reinhard connect.
  • First Attack Immunity: The first time an attack is performed at Reinhardt, he automatically dodges regardless of his awareness of the attack. The blessing will wake him up even if he's asleep.
  • Proceeding Attack Immunity: The second attack and all following attacks miss him, as he automatically dodges them with vastly greater speed than the first time.
  • Arrow Avoidance: Projectiles and long-distance attacks can not hit him.
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All these dont look like a problem for Saber who mostly fights with melee combat and doesnt mind if his first attacks are being avoided.
EDIT: ah wait, never mind. Somehow I missed the Proceeding Attack Immunity one
 
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shansome said:
You need hax to actually hit Reinhard, though. His entire character is being bullshit.
  • Initiative: He cannot be ambushed, and all initial attacks from Reinhard connect.
  • First Attack Immunity: The first time an attack is performed at Reinhardt, he automatically dodges regardless of his awareness of the attack. The blessing will wake him up even if he's asleep.
  • Proceeding Attack Immunity: The second attack and all following attacks miss him, as he automatically dodges them with vastly greater speed than the first time.
  • Arrow Avoidance: Projectiles and long-distance attacks can not hit him.
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Saber by this point is comparable to Durendal who can skill hard enough to basically catch Saber's instinctive elemental intang off guard. And someone worth their salt to be called a Swordman in Saber need to at least bodied someone attempt at speed blitz them through sheer skill alone.

And analytic prediction of Saber allow him to basically just completely hard negated King Crimson spams by being that good at predicting opponent despite the fact that they forgot most of the fight even happened due to Kaiji's constantly erasing the memories that "happened" in the "time" that has been cut.
 
MagiSinbad said:
All these dont look like a problem for Saber who mostly fights with melee combat and doesnt mind if his first attacks are being avoided.
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My point was that melee combat will be countered by Reinhard's own sword skill, ability to "see white rays of battle depicting enemy sword slashes and where he should slash to kill"(prediction) and ability to auto-dodge any attack physically possible(speed is equalized.)
Also, Divine Protection of the Sword Saint literally maxes out his swordsmanship.


Nicetoderp said:
Saber by this point is comparable to Durendal who can skill hard enough to basically catch Saber's instinctive elemental intang off guard. And someone worth their salt to be called a Swordman in Saber need to at least bodied someone attempt at speed blitz them through sheer skill alone.

And analytic prediction of Saber allow him to basically just completely hard negated King Crimson spams by being that good at predicting opponent despite the fact that they forgot most of the fight even happened due to Kaiji's constantly erasing the memories that "happened" in the "time" that has been cut.
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However, Reinhard doesn't really have many sword skill feats besides being the most skilled swordsman and dominating other top swordsmen in his verse, so it's very possible Saber has more pure sword skill. Yet that still doesn't let Saber get past the sword slash prediction and auto-dodge.
Also, Reinhard automatically reduces 80% of the Fire Damage he receives.
 
Nicetoderp said:
Saber by this point is comparable to Durendal who can skill hard enough to basically catch Saber's instinctive elemental intang off guard. And someone worth their salt to be called a Swordman in Saber need to at least bodied someone attempt at speed blitz them through sheer skill alone.

And analytic prediction of Saber allow him to basically just completely hard negated King Crimson spams by being that good at predicting opponent despite the fact that they forgot most of the fight even happened due to Kaiji's constantly erasing the memories that "happened" in the "time" that has been cut.
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Its auto dodge with speed equalized and each time he gets faster. The only chance Saber gets of hitting Reinhard is on the first strike after which it would become nigh impossible to keep up with his constant increasing speed. Also even if it does hit, as shan pointed out the fire attack would get its damaged reduced by 80%
 
This might be a case of these two never hitting/damaging each other. Reinhard's RPL lets him become faster after every attack is seen + auto-dodge. Saber has layered intang + instinctive dodge + Saber's RPL makes him stronger and more durable making it very difficult to damage Saber the longer the fights goes.
 
IxaSaga2 said:
This might be a case of these two never hitting/damaging each other. Reinhard's RPL lets him become faster after every attack is seen + auto-dodge. Saber has layered intang + instinctive dodge + Saber's RPL makes him stronger and more durable making it very difficult to damage Saber the longer the fights goes.
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Cant Reinhard harm her via dura neg or matter manip?
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
Cant Reinhard harm her via dura neg or matter manip?
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Well, Reindard needs multiple layers of NPI first and foremost to hit him at all. Even if he does, Saber has instinctive dodge (auto-dodge) and resists matter manip. And even then, Saber can just make an Earth clone which kinda behaves like Substitute from Pokemon.
 
IxaSaga2 said:
Well, Reindard needs multiple layers of NPI first and foremost to hit him at all. Even if he does, Saber has instinctive dodge (auto-dodge) and resists matter manip. And even then, Saber can just make an Earth clone which kinda behaves like Substitute from Pokemon.
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Then its an incon?
 
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