The first Dragon Ball Daima CTR 🥳

[Fezzih_007]

"I not giving the opportunity for anyone to do a Dragon Ball Daima CRT first, I'l be the one to do It first"
-Fezzihgeta

So, I know that Dragon Ball Daima just started, but doing a CRT about this Topic should't affect anything in the long run.

In the first episode, Goku sees that Shin and Kibito (Who is no longer Red) and ask how they are not fused anymore. Then they explain that Buu have a Gas inside of him that can negate Fusion.

So I propose that Buu gets fusion negation with the gas inside of his body

Limited Fusion Negation and Gas Manipulation (Buu have a gas that can negate the Potara Fusion)

And also, Vegetto with his shield as able to be inside his body for a while, but when he drop the shield, he got defuse. So I propose that everyone who can use a ki barrier, resistance to gas manipulation.

Unconventional Resistance to Poison and Gas Manipulation (Can use Ki Barriers, which not only protect against both physical and energy attacks, but also prevent Poisons and undesired foreign gaseous material and general atmosphere out.)

Agree blue names: LuffyRuffy46307, Dalesean027, Excellence616, Neoxxi16, Oliver_de_jesus, Kroneii1
Agree mods: LephyrTheRevanchist
Disagree:
Being Neutral don't exist in a crt, you either Agree or don't:

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

way too early for a CRT but okay

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree

 

[Dalesean027]

This works

 

[Excellence616]

I agree but too soon to be making a CRT

 

[Damage3245]

I'm unsure about this. Goku in the original manga uses a rare bit of deduction and notes that Gotenks remained fused inside Buu until his time limit ran out, so fusion can work inside Buu.

EDIT: Never mind. In the scan it specifies Potara fusion.

 

[Neoxxi16]

I agree

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

I'm unsure about this. Goku in the original manga uses a rare bit of deduction and notes that Gotenks remained fused inside Buu until his time limit ran out, so fusion can work inside Buu.

EDIT: Never mind. In the scan it specifies Potara fusion.

How would that work in vs battles when facing other kind of fusions? He also didn't defuse Piccolo when he absorbed him.

Would it mean it is limited fusion negation or something?

I'm comparing it with other fusion negation abilities in the series, i.e., spirit fissionism, which indeed does negate all kind of fusion.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Would it mean it is limited fusion negation or something?

yes
Trought, Vegeto would still get the resistance.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Yeah, Vegito's fine. But I'd say it being limited is better, since it can seemingly only negate one kind of fusion.

 

[Damage3245]

How would that work in vs battles when facing other kind of fusions? He also didn't defuse Piccolo when he absorbed him.

Would it mean it is limited fusion negation or something?

I'm comparing it with other fusion negation abilities in the series, i.e., spirit fissionism, which indeed does negate all kind of fusion.

Yes, it would be Limited.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

i agree

 

[Kroneii1]

I agree

 

[Vietthai96]

Should be resistance for Ki Barrier as a whole

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Rare W I agree but the resistance shouldn’t be limited just Buu method of fusion negation is limited.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

I think “unconventional fusion negation” fits better man.

 

[Omegabronic]

Should be resistance for Ki Barrier as a whole

i mean, we already don't scale Vegetto's barrier to everyone, no reason for this one to scale as well.......there was a thread trying to scale it to everyone, but i don't remember what happened to it

 

[Fezzih_007]

there was a thread trying to scale it to everyone, but i don't remember what happened to it

Besides Demage, most mods stayed neutral on the topic.

I gonna try again in the future.

 

[FaZe_Liam]

I agree

 

[UnoRebaixadO]

It seems pretty basic, I agree

 

[Fezzih_007]

Bump

 

[Ednaxel2]

Bump

 

[Fezzih_007]

Bump

 

[Darkmon_cns]

It seems fine, vigeto resisting defusion is interesting

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Would this apply to both manga and anime?

 

[SamanPatou]

Agreed

 

[Ednaxel2]

Seems like this got accepted

 

[RedReaper616]

HOLD ON HOLD ON PAUSE
Vegito did NOT resist getting de-fused with his Barrier. What his barrier did was KEEP OUT THE GAS Buu emits, so he should NOT get that resistance. Instead it should be added to his justifications and the Ki page that Barriers can block out gases to prevent inhaling of foreign and unwanted substances, similar to how Ki Barriers in DBS can keep out poison.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

HOLD ON HOLD ON PAUSE
Vegito did NOT resist getting de-fused with his Barrier. What his barrier did was KEEP OUT THE GAS Buu emits, so he should NOT get that resistance. Instead it should be added to his justifications and the Ki page that Barriers can block out gases to prevent inhaling of foreign and unwanted substances, similar to how Ki Barriers in DBS can keep out poison.

100% agreed

 

[Omegabronic]

HOLD ON HOLD ON PAUSE
Vegito did NOT resist getting de-fused with his Barrier. What his barrier did was KEEP OUT THE GAS Buu emits, so he should NOT get that resistance. Instead it should be added to his justifications and the Ki page that Barriers can block out gases to prevent inhaling of foreign and unwanted substances, similar to how Ki Barriers in DBS can keep out poison.

wasn't that a strategy Goku noted was made specifically to counter Basil, thus not being the standard?

 

[RedReaper616]

wasn't that a strategy Goku noted was made specifically to counter Basil, thus not being the standard?

I think Gohan made it, but I was referring to the general justifications we use on every page, which includes that. That said, it's easily adjustable if it doesn't deserve to be there. (I believe the logic was based on the fact literally Goku and Vegeta just do it after Gohan offscreen describe the Ki technique/strategy he comes up with, implying literally any Master Class Ki User could do it, but I'm not sure.) Point remains, Vegito doesn't get the resistance. He gets Anti-Gases.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

I think Gohan made it, but I was referring to the general justifications we use on every page, which includes that. That said, it's easily adjustable if it doesn't deserve to be there. (I believe the logic was based on the fact literally Goku and Vegeta just do it after Gohan offscreen describe the Ki technique/strategy he comes up with, implying literally any Master Class Ki User could do it, but I'm not sure.) Point remains, Vegito doesn't get the resistance. He gets Anti-Gases.

At that level it should protect from pretty much any disease transmitted by air or touch as well right?

 

[RedReaper616]

Considering the literal atmosphere in Buu is his weird gas, I mean, yes? It's not an almighty shield, but if it operates through conventional touch or gaseous transmission, then by all logic the Barrier would in fact prevent any contact and protect you from them, yeah.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

If we agree the gas is basically the atmosphere in there, should vigeto has the power to survive in space?

 

[RedReaper616]

No? I mean, Saiyans in canon consistently just can't, as little sense as that makes considering they can operate just fine in space-less and timeless voids.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Assuming all outside conditions are nullified because of his barrier, still keeping gas outside does not mean your source of oxygen is endless, so he'll suffocate.

Anyway, I see both interpretations (blocking the gas and resisting the gas' effects) as equally posible tbh

 

[Darkmon_cns]

No? I mean, Saiyans in canon consistently just can't, as little sense as that makes considering they can operate just fine in space-less and timeless voids.

If it was something only vigeto could do it wouldn't counterdict any existing statments or ideas

 

[RedReaper616]

If it was something only vigeto could do it wouldn't counterdict any existing statments or ideas

Yes it would, because he's a Saiyan.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Yes it would, because he's a Saiyan.

*best sayain that could kick your button as a candy

 

[RedReaper616]

*best sayain that could kick your button as a candy

Vegito only could do that thanks to special built in traits according to the Daizenshuu that allowed this, so using this logic isn't really sensible to me.