The Fire of God vs. The Fire of the Beast

[SchroKatze]

Welp, I was thinking about that, and this seems to be a fair match.

The Holy Fire vs The Immortal Flames

>Moral On.

>Starting Distance: 60 meters.

>Random encounter.

>Eleonore with all swastikas open.

>Ruler at Leticia's body.

>Battle takes place in Berlim.

 

[SchroKatze]

This isn't a bump.

 

[SchroKatze]

Bummpp

 

[SchroKatze]

B U M P

 

[Schnee_One]

Can Jeanne bypass Low Godly?

 

[SchroKatze]

She has conceptual destruction.

 

[Schnee_One]

Can she stop herself from getting one shotted?

 

[SchroKatze]

Magic resistance and really high projectile resistance.

 

[Schnee_One]

Magic resistance defends from pure AP?

 

[SchroKatze]

But she is experienced in battle, she would'nt let Eleonore land a direct hit.

And her Luminosite tanked a 6-C explosion

 

[Schnee_One]

Damn.

I guess she wins, superior skill and experience combined with magic resistance allows her to tank his attacks until she falls back on her noble phantasm.

 

[SchroKatze]

Bump ;-

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Damn.
I guess she wins, superior skill and experience combined with magic resistance allows her to tank his attacks until she falls back on her noble phantasm.

Wat.

Also, pretty sure Baptism Rite erases Eleonore. Don't even need La Pucelle.

@Schro As for "your projectiles can't hit me" vs "My projectiles always hit you", I'd think that crashing into a magical barrier still qualifies as "hitting you". And it's not like every single one of Eleonore's attacks will hit. I'm pretty sure that her summoning of Panzerfausts and stuff can miss like normal.

 

[SchroKatze]

Does she use it all the time?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

No clue

 

[Reppuzan]

Jeanne doesn't really have a way to kill Eleonore for good. On the other hand, Eleonore will have a helluva a time trying to hurt Jeanne with anything but physical attacks since magical attacks just bounce off Jeanne.

Conceptual Destruction is limited to La Pucelle, which will kill Jeanne upon completion.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

What about Baptism Rite? The Type Moon wiki says Shirou's version was melting away Lancer of Black's existence, and hers should be comparable.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Monarch

The Baptismal Sacrament only sublimes spiritual beings and the main reason why it was so effective on Vlad was due to Dracula's weakness to the objects of the Church. The case with Jack is similar, as Jack is an evil spirit formed of the conglomeration of the hate, pain, suffering, and despair of the 80,000 children abandoned in Victorian London.

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

Nah Shirou is special because of his Noble Phantasm. Jeanne does not scale.

 

[Reppuzan]

Yup, Shirou's Xanadu Matrix buffed up his Baptism Rite significantly due to them linking him to every form of magecraft.

 

[Schnee_One]

Inconclusive

Neither can reliably kill the other and even then Jeanne's NP does kill.

Tho I think Eleonore may know to get in Gladesheimr first before she strikes.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Huh. Alright then.

Would all Servants being fundamentally spiritual beings not help? Eleonore is also a spiritual being, so Ruler should be able to fight and damage her just by virtue of being able to fight other servants.

 

[SchroKatze]

I just realized that even if Eleonore's fire can't directly kill Jeanne, the heat would consume the oxigen and kill her, since her body still human/Leticia's body

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Oooh nice point

 

[Reppuzan]

@SchroKatze

It would never touch her or come near her due to her magic resistance.

Otherwise a magical bombing raid would harm Jeanne.

 

[SchroKatze]

@Repp Eleonore's fire heat exceeds that of a nuke, and her false/true briah aren't projectiles. The false is just a big explosion that expands endleslly and the true is like a Reality Marble.

Also, her fire's heat can affect things in a considerable range.

 

[Reppuzan]

@SchroKatze

But it's utilized through the application of Die Ewigkeit, a form of magic.

Hence they're magical in nature and bounce off.

 

[SchroKatze]

Even if they ignore resistances?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

They only ignore heat resistance because they burn the soul as well

 

[Reppuzan]

@SchroKatze

The point is that the fire won't even touch Jeanne, since it'll just bounce off and go to the side.

Eleonore's fire ignores resistance to fire and heat, but not resistance to magic itself.

 

[SchroKatze]

But what about the heat burming the oxigen in her surroundings?

 

[Reppuzan]

I don't recall a statement saying that she needed air, only food and sleep.

In addition, if we're going by strictly the Servant version of Jeanne, she doesn't need any of those.

 

[SchroKatze]

In this battle its Leticia's body Jeanne

 

[Reppuzan]

I don't really understand the point of giving Jeanne these arbitrary restrictions when she's supposed to be fighting at the peak of her strength.

 

[Schnee_One]

She can't even kill the dude without killing herself and she still can lose.

What's with these pointless restrictions?

 

[SchroKatze]

It's the only version of Jeanne that I know -q

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I don't think F/GO's version is in a human body.