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The Fantastic Four: First Steps Spoiler Discussion Thread

This is what Galactus said
I was once little like you. Billions of years ago. A man from another world. Before this blindless, eternal hunger.
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So, for what Galactus has:
1. Self-Sustenance Type 1 (Can breathe in space)
2. Longevity + Possible Immortality Type 1 (Has lived for billions of years)
3. Extrasensory Perception (Scanned all of New York City within a second to find Franklin Richards)
4. Resistance to Black Holes (Scales above Shalla-Bal)
5. Large Size (Skyscraper)
6. Telekinesis
7. Genius IQ
8. Had the strength to THROW THE THING INTO SPACE
9. Super-hearing (Heard Franklin Richards from about 2-3 miles away)
Earth 828 is the Universe this Fantastic Four is set in. Funny how it's set only 10 earths away from 838 (the reality with the Illuminati from Doctor Strange 2.)
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Franklin Richards is stated to be imbued with the Power Cosmic.
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BYRDIE IS IN THIS UNIVERSE?????!!!!
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darkphantom9805 said:
Too bad he didn’t really have any crazy strength feats
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He's going to be ultra-pissed. He got teleported to the other side of the universe, AND his herald betrayed him. So, he's without food, his ship, and has suffered betrayal.

This dude is going to kill some worlds once he's back and running at his absolute full power lmaoo.
 
Naeem0304 said:
He's going to be ultra-pissed. He got teleported to the other side of the universe, AND his herald betrayed him. So, he's without food, his ship, and has suffered betrayal.

This dude is going to kill some worlds once he's back and running at his absolute full power lmaoo.
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i don’t know if we’ll see this galactus again the director seemed to imply there infinite variants of him when asked if there were more versions
 
darkphantom9805 said:
i don’t know if we’ll see this galactus again the director seemed to imply there infinite variants of him when asked if there were more versions
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If AV Doomsday is anything to go by, Reed and the F4 are probably going to 616 for help after the F4 Credits Scene (Where Doctor Doom takes Franklin Richards).

Given how Earth 828 isn't destroyed, it'll still be used in some capacity again. Hopefully 828-Galactus isn't cast out.

But it makes you wonder. Where the heck has 616-Galactus been, if he truly does exist? I mean, sure, he's not looking at Earth because there's no Franklin Richards in 616, but you'd think he'd have a mention at least. 616-Galactus has been missing out lol
 
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Given how Earth 828 isn't destroyed, it'll still be used in some capacity again. Hopefully 828-Galactus isn't cast out.
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Idk about that feige was talking about rebooting most the verse presumably to get all these guys on 1 timeline like x-men mutants F4 etc


Naeem0304 said:
But it makes you wonder. Where the heck has 616-Galactus been, if he truly does exist? I mean, sure, he's not looking at Earth because there's no Franklin Richards in 616, but you'd think he'd have a mention at least.
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Why doesn’t he just go for infinity stones then he’d have an unlimited source of energy seems like he doesn’t exist or that would be the case
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Idk about that feige was talking about rebooting most the verse presumably to get all these guys on 1 timeline like x-men mutants F4 etc
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Makes sense.
Why doesn’t he just go for infinity stones then he’d have an unlimited source of energy seems like he doesn’t exist or that would be the case
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Judging by the Fantastic Four Movie, Galactus has a hard time tracking things. Reed said that if they managed to teleport Earth to the other side of the Galaxy, it would take Galactus a "million years" to find them.

The Infinity Stones are very good hide and seek players 😂
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Didn't Galactus have a Head Statue in L&T where they went to meet 616 Eternity? Iirc, even "Death" had one.
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wich one?
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darkphantom9805 said:
no he didn’t but every cosmic entity has one meaning he likely isn’t a cosmic entity
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It's kind of weird, though. The Watcher has one, but the Eminence and the other two Watchers don't?

It makes me wonder who and what built the statues, and when it was constructed.
 
Naeem0304 said:
It's kind of weird, though. The Watcher has one, but the Eminence and the other two Watchers don't?

It makes me wonder who and what built the statues, and when it was constructed.
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Those guys don’t really intervene tho the entire point of season 3

I don’t think we have any idea who built the gate of eternity possibly it was eternity himself
 
Just saw the whole movie. Here's everything important:
1. Mole Man sunk the whole MetLife/Pan-Am Building underground. Pretty concrete Large Building Level feat via prep time.
2. Galactus has consumed 5 planets, and they have completely disappeared.
3. Reed Richards installed an FTL travel device in orbit, which allowed the Excelsior to go to other solar systems.
4. Sue CLOAKED THE EXCELSIOR while it was flying around Galactus' Ship. DOPE SCENE.
5. Galactus' Ship quickly harvested a planet about 13% larger than Earth.
6. Galactus' Ship has a tractor beam.
7. Galactus said, and I quote, "Your child possesses the Power Cosmic and will inherit this cursed throne."
8. Franklin Richards, even as an unborn infant, was hiding his power (according to Galactus).
9. Galactus merely gazing with his real eyes caused Sue to start giving birth to Franklin.
10. Both Galactus and Shalla-Bal have extreme temperature resistance (they both endured lava).
11. Sue Storm was able to ragdoll Shalla-Bal and harm her with Force Fields. Very impressive.
12. Shalla-Bal can keep up with the FTL Excelsior. Also, it's confirmed by Johnny that FTL creates a wormhole.
13. Shalla-Bal dodged a beam from an FTL Excelsior, so she'd have both FTL travel and reaction speed.
14. Reed Richards and Ben/The Thing call the "Black Hole" a "Neutron Star" that has time dilation. According to Reed, it'd take Shalla a month to exit the Neutron Star. 15. By the end of the space sequence (WHICH WAS AMAZING), she got sucked into the center of the Neutron Star.
16. The Excelsior was still sustaining itself at 0.88 percent the Speed of Light. Assuming the Excelsior was the same weight as a Space Shuttle (2000 tons; the Excelsior is a lot bigger, so an official calculation will yield a higher result), it'd have a kinetic energy/durability rating of 47 Teratons (Country Level.) Damn, lol.
17. It took the Excelsior 32 seconds to travel from the Neutron Star back to Earth. Assuming we use the closest Neutron Star to us, which is 400 light years away, then you get 394,375,000x FTL. DAMN! That's far faster than Captain Marvel's flying feat in Endgame.
18. Galactus used telekinesis to restrain Shalla-Bal.
19. Statement time... Galactus said, "The infant is a being of INFINITE POWER." Galactus also says Franklin has enough power to end his hunger forever.
20. Johnny said, "We're faster than him, right?". The Thing responded by saying "The Herald" is faster, so once more, blatant confirmation that Shalla-Bal is FTL.
21. According to Reed's pre-scans of Galactus' ship (from HERBIE), "he predates our universe... our reality. It would take 10 years to understand his composition, let alone his existence."
22. Reed confirms Galactus wants Franklin Richards as a successor.
23. Sue should have Social Influencing once her profile is made; she's not only a well-renowned politician, but she also made an entire crowd of about a thousand people settle down when they argued that Franklin should be given up.
24. Reed Richards has a "bridge", or a teleportation system. It has the ability to move the Earth to another part of the Galaxy.
25. Shalla-Bal destroys every teleportation bridge on the planet but the one in New York. Insane speed feat btw. Later, Reed says the teleporter in New York (specifically centered in Times Square) would send Galactus to the furthest parts of the universe. This teleportation system's range would be Interdimensional.
26. Shalla-Bal comes from the planet Zenn-La.
27. Sue was able to move Galactus' whole body with her powers.
28. The credits scene is four years later.
  • Reed Richards would have Extraordinary genius IQ: He created an FTL device, an interdimensional teleportation system that could transport an entire planet, a ship that could sustain going at 80% the Speed of Light, discovered the existence of parallel universes/dimensions, built computers that could scan Shalla-Bal's energy signature despite not even touching her and creating suits that could survive extreme pressure.
  • By estimation, Sue's Lifting Strength would likely be in the Class M range; she practically pushed Galactus across multiple city blocks.
  • Shalla-Bal's AP is unknown to me, but she'd have MFTL+ travel and reaction speed (she was dodging and tagging energy blasts from the Excelsior while it was going MFTL) and extreme resistance to heat manipulation.
  • For Shalla-Bal's durability, a Neutron Star has a tablespoon mass of 1 billion tons. A tablespoon is 14 cubic centimeters, and the average person is 62,000 cubic centimeters in volume. That would mean Shalla-Bal endured 4.4285e+12 metric tons of force, or around Class P. Same LS rating. If we assumed the Neutron Star was rotating a 100x slower than the fastest recorded one, we get a Kinetic Energy rating of 40 Gigatons of TNT (Island Level.)
 
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darkphantom9805 said:
Can’t believe we have a film with galactus and best we can get him is island level via upscaling of his herald 😭😭😭
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The only thing that's high-end (besides the MFTL speed) is Galactus' ship consuming a planet about 13% the size of Earth, along with the destruction of 5 other worlds, but we don't have much of a timeframe.

Franklin Richards having a statement of "infinite power" is something, I guess.

But yeah... Galactus was NOWHERE near planetary in terms of his actual performance.
 
Naeem0304 said:
The only thing that's high-end (besides the MFTL speed) is Galactus' ship consuming a planet about 13% the size of Earth, along with the destruction of 5 other worlds, but we don't have much of a timeframe.

Franklin Richards having a statement of "infinite power" is something, I guess.

But yeah... Galactus was NOWHERE near planetary in terms of his actual performance.
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We can scale him to Franklin Richards so he has infinite power or no
 
darkphantom9805 said:
We can scale him to Franklin Richards so he has infinite power or no
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For his hypothetical peak (which wasn't shown on film), sure, that's fair.

By the way, it took his ship 36 hours to travel from Jupiter to Earth; that's about 0.01 C (Sub-Relativistic)

In terms of the speed, everything is pretty good.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
If Silver Surfer was tagged by the Beams, wouldn't that be considered no different than hitting an object at those speeds? Meaning she could scale over her KE?

Or is that just Copium on my part?
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It’s not cope at all; she 100% scales over her KE.
 
Isaacbobanka said:
Assuming the pressure is the core of a neutron star ( around 10^34 Pascals (N/m2)
If we calculate the energy endured by a human-sized object (~1 m³), it would be:

E=P⋅V=10^34⋅1=10^34 joules
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Planet Level?

Makes sense.

Anyway, I’ll make sandboxes for Galactus, Sue Storm, Reed Richards, Mole-Man, The Thing, Johnny, Shalla-Bal and Franklin Richards. The great part is that Deviantart already has HD images for the movie characters, so it should look clean.
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Can’t believe we have a film with galactus and best we can get him is island level via upscaling of his herald 😭😭😭
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Galactus was super week in this film he didn't really have any good feats besides travelling between planets and him being able destroy them over time. Not to mention invis women blood lusted was able push him back and he was struggling to break free. And only broke free because invis literally died from using her max power to stop him.
 
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