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Back with yet another CRT to the Nicktoon with the 2nd most seasons to talk about more stat stuff. Consider this the "Part 2" of my quest to fix this series, as the next part will hopefully tap into fixing how we handle Fairy Magic abilities. That being said, I wish we get this started!

Low Multiversal Fairy Magic

So remember that scene in the episode Abra-Catastrophe! when Cosmo in his Massive Pecs form punched Supreme Ruler of the Universe Crocker many times that one of the shots showed Timmy, Crocker, Cosmo, and Wanda just randomly having a tea party out of nowhere? Yeah, we found that as a funny little gag, but what if I told you that there's more context behind this that's not explained in this scene, but rather from a former storyboard artist/director of the show who helped work on this episode? Enter a statement made by John Fountain on X, who stated that the force of Cosmo's punch actually caused reality to become briefly unmoored which led to the tea party shot, with further clarification from a comment reply confirming that Cosmo created a new multiverse in the process from the force of his punch. Given that John was the one who pitched this scene to be featured in the episode to the point where it got approved, there's not much of a reason to not use this scene. While there's not an exact number as to how many universes were created, at the very least, we can say that 2 universes got created since this was specified to be a multiverse.

Given how Crocker created his armor with Fairy Magic which was able to withstand Cosmo's punch, it means that Fairy Magic is 2-C, and that those who wield it should scale to 2 universes.

Infinite Universe Means Infinite Potential (Infinite Speed Upgrade)

During the episode Smarty Pants, Timmy made a wish that he would know everything to the point where he made even AJ (The smartest student in Timmy's class) feel jealous for him. How is this intelligence related to what I'm going to talk about, you ask? Well, Timmy while under the effects of his wish made a statement at one point that the universe is infinite in size, so he should be a reliable source in this scene due to his aforementioned wish in the episode.

EDIT: As a bonus, this also grants Timmy with Fairy Magic Cosmic Awareness/Nigh-Omniscience that he was able to know everything happening within the infinite universe.

That being said, given the universe is infinite in size, this actually affects feats like Shirley's wormholes destroying Timmy's world overtime and Da Rules blowing up the universe if it wasn't stopped by virtue of them being Infinite in attack speed, both of which were stuff created by fairy magic. This is especially surprisingly consistent since there have been certain times where characters have reacted or somewhat moved in tandem with fairy magic, especially with one moment where several fairies were able to search every corner of the infinite universe in 3 hours. As such, I do think the Infinite speed should scale to everyone.

Turbo Boost! (High 6-A Upgrade + OYC!Turbo Timmy Key Addition)

Currently, the cast is stuck at 10 petatons which is pretty low for High 6-A, but thankfully I made this calc which should amp everyone up to 675 petatons scaling from some random powerless Australian man who survived being sandwiched between the Earth and various planets when the former was being hurled at the latter, especially since Cosmo and Wanda (In their base forms) were visibly not affected after the Earth crashed into multiple planets.

In addition, I propose a new key for Timmy, that being his Turbo Timmy key... and no, not the Wishology one. It's the other form of the same name from the Oh Yeah Cartoons! era of the show. Sure, this form only appeared in one episode, but hey, so did Galactimus and Dark Suit Timmy, so I don't see why this can't be added. That being said, this form has:
That should be simple enough. Oh yeah, as a bonus, the Jimmy Neutron characters also get affected by the latter 2 sections thanks to Jimmy being able to keep up with Timmy. So yes, it means Dexter is guaranteed even deader against Jimmy.
 
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This looks good. Infinite speed also should be fine considering the many reaction feats to fairy magic.
 
So um, okay, this kind of stops me from making my 2-A Upgrade (or Tier 1 Upgrade then after Danny Phantom gets upgraded) , at least not right away as I don't want to undermine your thread. I do agree with 2-C though.
 
So um, okay, this kind of stops me from making my 2-A Upgrade (or Tier 1 Upgrade then after Danny Phantom gets upgraded) , at least not right away as I don't want to undermine your thread. I do agree with 2-C though.
Oh, does this have something to do with A New Wish? (I've only got up to the part where Poof/Peri got introduced)
I think it's unwise give even 3 random birds Infinite Speed, if anything this seems like a giant anti-feat for Fairy Magic rather than an actual feat for the humans
Why, though? We constantly see regular humans slightly move in tandem with fairy magic, and just because we see regular birds move in tandem with it as well doesn't mean it's an anti-feat; Rather, it just means the birds are also infinite in speed.
 
Oh, does this have something to do with A New Wish? (I've only got up to the part where Poof/Peri got introduced)
Uh no, this was way before A New Wish got announced. Butch Hartman basically indirectly stated that the popular theory about Timmy creating the Danny Phantom verse was something that Timmy could wish for due to how he described the powers Fairies have.
 
Uh no, this was way before A New Wish got announced. Butch Hartman basically indirectly stated that the popular theory about Timmy creating the Danny Phantom verse was something that Timmy could wish for due to how he described the powers Fairies have.
That was only a theory that Butch never confirmed to be true at any point; It's the reason why the justification for Cosmo and Wanda creating a new universe was removed, if you read the last CRT I made for the series.
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Are you seriously saying almost every form of animal life on Earth has Infinite Speed?
Absurd as it is, if that's how the show treats it, then so be it. It's not really an anti-feat, it just means that's how animals are treated in the series as with the regular civilians.
 
That was only a theory that Butch never confirmed to be true at any point; It's the reason why the justification for Cosmo and Wanda creating a new universe was removed, if you read the last CRT I made for the series.
I never implied the theory was true, and my reasoning for the upgrade isn't about proving the theory true or not. I do believe based on what Butch did say in that video concerning the Fairies' power, as my previous response said, very much supports the idea they could make the wish, and thusly can be debated in that sense.

But, we should probably avoid discussing this further here as it'd clog your thread. If you want to discuss this with me in private message or on either of our message walls let me know.

But, to return to this thread's purpose and content, I do agree with 2-C at least, as I said before. Not confident enough about Infinite Speed to approve or deny the bird anti-feat, but I won't have any issues if it does go through considering the flying through the entire infinite universe in a finite amount of time which I do believe qualifies,, as if you fly an infinite distance in an infinite amount of time you could only have at the most MFTL+ speed.
 
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Yeah, I agree. For the bird argument, I think I remember everything in FOP having a sense of cartoonish weirdness where nearly everything is comically exaggerated, so I’m not against it.
 
Absurd as it is, if that's how the show treats it, then so be it. It's not really an anti-feat, it just means that's how animals are treated in the series as with the regular civilians.
Outliers and PIS can exist, mostly on Verses where the authors don't care about powerscaling, something that happens on FOP

It is not the show treating normal animals as Infinitely fast, it's rather an inconsistence, simple as that, there is no sort of thing as "everything just perpetually upscaling to the highest-end possible"

Honestly, you can choose to answer to this or no, i've already said pretty much every reason why i find this specific feat stupid to be used
 
I think it's pretty ridiculous as well TBH.

But I know how cartoons can be but I also don't scale FOP at all, which is why I said it was okay (at a glance).
 
Outliers and PIS can exist, mostly on Verses where the authors don't care about powerscaling, something that happens on FOP

It is not the show treating normal animals as Infinitely fast, it's rather an inconsistence, simple as that, there is no sort of thing as "everything just perpetually upscaling to the highest-end possible"

Honestly, you can choose to answer to this or no, i've already said pretty much every reason why i find this specific feat stupid to be used
Do you at least still buy the other pieces of evidence for the humans and fairies being infinite in speed?
 
During the episode Smarty Pants, Timmy made a wish that he would know everything to the point where he made even AJ (The smartest student in Timmy's class) feel jealous for him. How is this intelligence related to what I'm going to talk about, you ask? Well, Timmy while under the effects of his wish made a statement at one point that the universe is infinite in size, so he should be a reliable source in this scene due to his aforementioned wish in the episode.
Btw shouldn't this give some kind of Nigh-Omniscience and/or Cosmic Awareness?
but thankfully I made this calc which should amp everyone up to 675 petatons scaling from some random powerless Australian man who survived being sandwiched between the Earth and various planets when the former was being hurled at the latter, especially since Cosmo and Wanda (In their base forms) were visibly not affected after the Earth crashed into multiple planets.
Link in the calc is dead.
 
Infinite Universe Means Infinite Potential (Infinite Speed Upgrade)

During the episode Smarty Pants, Timmy made a wish that he would know everything to the point where he made even AJ (The smartest student in Timmy's class) feel jealous for him. How is this intelligence related to what I'm going to talk about, you ask? Well, Timmy while under the effects of his wish made a statement at one point that the universe is infinite in size, so he should be a reliable source in this scene due to his aforementioned wish in the episode.

EDIT: As a bonus, this also grants Timmy with Fairy Magic Cosmic Awareness/Nigh-Omniscience that he was able to know everything happening within the infinite universe.

That being said, given the universe is infinite in size, this actually affects feats like Shirley's wormholes destroying Timmy's world overtime and Da Rules blowing up the universe if it wasn't stopped by virtue of them being Infinite in attack speed, both of which were stuff created by fairy magic. This is especially surprisingly consistent since there have been certain times where characters have reacted or somewhat moved in tandem with fairy magic, especially with one moment where several fairies were able to search every corner of the infinite universe in 3 hours. As such, I do think the Infinite speed should scale to everyone.
Why is this being suggested without evaluating staff (@Nierre) taking issue with it.

How many anti-feats of mundane people, animals, objects, or forces of reality moving at the same time as magic would y'all need to not want to scale everything in the series to Infinite speed?

The "covered every corner of the infinite universe in 3 hours" thing is especially silly if you think about it for a little bit. Timmy didn't know anything about the progress of the search, got updated on 5 places, and then said "we've covered the entire universe". There's no reliable way for him to make that claim, and the surrounding events imply against infinite speed; why would these infinitely fast characters only have updates on one or two locations? Especially given how these fairies have widely-applicable magic, including Enhanced Senses, Cosmic Awareness, Clairvoyance, and the like; if their magic has infinite range and includes information-gathering abilities like this, why would you assume it's all done through sheer speed?
 
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