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I figured we should do stuff step by step. As such, there is still another revision planned after this one. Please do stay civil and feel free to comment if you have any issue with my explanation or if you need more information.
For this thread, I've used scenes from another novel from the author called "The Demon King is Unbeatable" which is canon to the larger verse as a whole. Since it is an untranslated novel, I've asked @Mugen_no_Setsuna to translate some important scenes to get a better version than MTL, however not all quotes are translated. As such, I've clarified whenever a translation what by a human or through MTL.
1. Celestial Foundation
Currently, Celestial Foundations are accepted as 2-B structure for encompassing multiple timelines within itself. Feel free to read the explanation available here.
Furthermore, they are considered at least universe-sized because they are called universes directly, among other things.
The problem here is on two sides, so let's begin with the most important one. The Celestial Foundations doesn't encompass "everything" on a conceptual level.
As you can see, each Celestial Foundation doesn't have their own "concept of time and space", since only the Celestial Foundation (plates), The Canopy (protection) and Celestial Axis (conceptual tube used for traveling) are conceptual, the rest of the world is very much physical.
However, they may have a different flow of time depending on the celestial foundation.
As for the second problem. The Celestial Foundations aren't universe-sized, at all.
Given the evidence, Celestial Foundations can't be considered universal structure or space-time continuum (At least through our standards). We can probably treat them as either pocket realities or locations within space distant from one another. Whatever is fine by me.
As such, they should be downgraded to "Varies, Solar System for the huge ones"
2. The Abyss.
In this thread, it was accepted that the Abyss should be "possibly Low 1-C" due to it possibly having a universal size. Well, it should go, since the Celestial Foundation of Yogiri is stated to only be Solar System in size.
I suggest putting The Abyss as "Unknown".
3. The Sea
Since there exist at least more than ten thousand Celestial Foundations within the Sea, we can safely put the Sea at "At least Multi Solar-System".
Obviously, someone will argue that "The Sea was stated to be an infinite space" and as such, High Universal would be a better rating for it, but this isn't the case.
You see, infinity can't exist physically, what is infinite is in fact only what is vast enough that it appears as infinite, but the thing itself isn't.
So, no, it can't be infinite, although perhaps a "likely higher" rating could be implemented.
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That's it for now.
Agree: KingNanaya, Korf3ll, Dark_Soul20189, Mugen_no_Setsuna, Homie890, Ovy7, Astral_Trinity439, Voidnether, BoastJr, ProfectusInfinity, Da3ggman, Meli_Tempest, Railgun, Grabbing_dragon
Disagree:
Neutral:
For this thread, I've used scenes from another novel from the author called "The Demon King is Unbeatable" which is canon to the larger verse as a whole. Since it is an untranslated novel, I've asked @Mugen_no_Setsuna to translate some important scenes to get a better version than MTL, however not all quotes are translated. As such, I've clarified whenever a translation what by a human or through MTL.
1. Celestial Foundation
Currently, Celestial Foundations are accepted as 2-B structure for encompassing multiple timelines within itself. Feel free to read the explanation available here.
Furthermore, they are considered at least universe-sized because they are called universes directly, among other things.
The problem here is on two sides, so let's begin with the most important one. The Celestial Foundations doesn't encompass "everything" on a conceptual level.
As you can see, each Celestial Foundation doesn't have their own "concept of time and space", since only the Celestial Foundation (plates), The Canopy (protection) and Celestial Axis (conceptual tube used for traveling) are conceptual, the rest of the world is very much physical.
However, they may have a different flow of time depending on the celestial foundation.
As for the second problem. The Celestial Foundations aren't universe-sized, at all.
Given the evidence, Celestial Foundations can't be considered universal structure or space-time continuum (At least through our standards). We can probably treat them as either pocket realities or locations within space distant from one another. Whatever is fine by me.
As such, they should be downgraded to "Varies, Solar System for the huge ones"
2. The Abyss.
In this thread, it was accepted that the Abyss should be "possibly Low 1-C" due to it possibly having a universal size. Well, it should go, since the Celestial Foundation of Yogiri is stated to only be Solar System in size.
I suggest putting The Abyss as "Unknown".
3. The Sea
Since there exist at least more than ten thousand Celestial Foundations within the Sea, we can safely put the Sea at "At least Multi Solar-System".
Obviously, someone will argue that "The Sea was stated to be an infinite space" and as such, High Universal would be a better rating for it, but this isn't the case.
You see, infinity can't exist physically, what is infinite is in fact only what is vast enough that it appears as infinite, but the thing itself isn't.
So, no, it can't be infinite, although perhaps a "likely higher" rating could be implemented.
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That's it for now.
Agree: KingNanaya, Korf3ll, Dark_Soul20189, Mugen_no_Setsuna, Homie890, Ovy7, Astral_Trinity439, Voidnether, BoastJr, ProfectusInfinity, Da3ggman, Meli_Tempest, Railgun, Grabbing_dragon
Disagree:
Neutral:
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