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The Courier vs Geralt of Rivia
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Sorry, I needed to
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shiet
another thread that needs to be remade,gotta get better at making matches
another thread that needs to be remade,gotta get better at making matches
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Yeah, social influencing totally works on somebody who has a century of experience on life threatening bargains and currently is within killing distance on the opponent
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tbf he’s had sex with something he was supposed to kill
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Why is a 9B fighting an 8C.
Courier is not that haxed people.
Also Legate is a messy example, he is not only in a functionally bad situation that could be reasoned with, he is a leader and has listened to people talk before.
Why should I not close this
Courier is not that haxed people.
Also Legate is a messy example, he is not only in a functionally bad situation that could be reasoned with, he is a leader and has listened to people talk before.
Why should I not close this
AngeronTheSkyHighAnger
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Probably because he has weaponry that ignore durability and VATS
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Social Influencing,some weapons that negate dura/are too hot to handle for Geralt,and perception manip provide Courier a decent chance against him.
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Eh, already explained why the match should be on-hold and why some of this doesn't work.
He was horny on main, he just had to. A man's duty.
He was horny on main, he just had to. A man's duty.
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Ya know,Courier with the confirmed bachelor perk can go gay....
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Legate is not the main example of social influencing for the courier. Ulysses and the Think Tank are both much better examples of the courier’s social influencing. Though being able to see Legate’s scenario turning bad far in the future and being able to convince Legate of this, despite him being slightly insane and having been trying to have this war for years, should be a good feat of social influencing.
I will say this thread can be closed because the courier’s profile is out of date, but the courier has ap above 9-B (and 9-A durability so why are you even calling him a 9-B for this fight), can ignore durability in a few ways, and massively out ranges Geralt. This fight is not one sided for either side and I can see why people would vote either way and I can see why people would have disagreements on certain things (like would the courier’s social influencing work.) Compared to many other matches this one is messy, but not a stomp.
“Ya know,Courier with the confirmed bachelor perk can go gay”
Or they could be a girl and have the black widow perk.
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I know that it's pointless to disprove this, but as a Legion fanboy, I'll have to stop you right there. Legate Lanius isn't 100% a brute. The reason why he's treated like that is because his fellow legionnaires fear him and the Legion civilians and haters see him as such because of his past actions (Killing off nearly the entirety of his tribe after it surrendered to Caesar, ripping a brahmin in half because it stood in his way). When you meet him, he's literally just standing there, waiting for you to talk to him, and his convo proves that he is willing to listen to reason and what-not despite being bloodthirsty. You never convince him to side with you or to not kill you, he straight up says "wow bro ur good with words i hope youre as good with weapons and that there will be more people like you so i can kill them too lol" before running away to come up with a better way of whooping your ass.
With my boring rant out of the way, I'll now try to respond to the actual arguments presented here.
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I'm not sure where V.A.T.S. is being discussed but it makes no sense for it to only be perception manipulation because it also makes you draw and shoot faster, especially in Fallout 4.
As far as I know there's no official confirmation of how it works, but all evidence points either to time-stop or perception AND statistic amplification.
As far as I know there's no official confirmation of how it works, but all evidence points either to time-stop or perception AND statistic amplification.
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So it's a speed amp, plain and simple. Literally the same as Max Payne's Bullet-Time, Tanjiro's See-Through World, or even Geralt's own Blizzard that was previously treated as Time Slow, even though it's just perception manipulation. Very common in fiction.
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Okay, enough messing around, time to write something actually meaningful here.
Yes, V.A.T.S somewhat manipulates Courier's perception last I checked, and it also gives him a higher chance of landing a more powerful attack (read: crits). It's also not passive, as Courier Six first needs to pull out whatever weapon he's holding first and then he'll be able to use it. Although we don't have much lore on V.A.T.S (unsurprising, since it was just a targetting system in the classic Fallouts), Fallout 4 does state that it is some sort of advanced technology that was lost to time, and that the Institute was trying to implement the thing into their own synths. Curiously, while the V.A.T.S on Courier's Pip-Boy stops time, Sole Survivor's simply slows it down. So it's... possibly a weird amalgamation of time and perception manipulation.
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