The Cluster vs Chaos

[Bowser-us]

HIgh 6-A, speed equalized

 

[Truth_Bullets]

bump

 

[fandom_22Easy]

Cluster one shots.

....is what I would say if Chaos didn't speedblitz. I took a quick look in the SU pages, and the highest speed consistently seems to be relatavistic. So uh...Chaos runs circles around the cluster and eventually kills it.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Speed is equalized

 

[fandom_22Easy]

I swear it wasn't equalized when I posted that. Oh well. Cluster one shots. Pretty sure this is a stomp since there's nothing Chaos can do to stop from getting punched.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Also, IDK if thisd be disallowed, but even if Cluster didn't one-shot, the longer it's out of it's bubble, the more risk it poses to just destroying the whole Earth and becoming a 5-A anyway.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

>One-shot.

You do realize Chaos has Low-High regen, right?

 

[fandom_22Easy]

>One-shot.
You do realize Chaos has Low-High regen, right?

Which wouldn't change the outcome of the match.

You understand the AP difference right? Cluster is nearly Planet Level while Chaos isn't. Chaos is going to explode on impact. Furthermore, The cluster is big enough to the point of when it hits, it will always hit Chaos in his weak spot. So the regen doesn't make a difference. Chaos gets one shot.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

>Planet level.

Good thing it's the High 6-A versions being used then.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Nearly planet level he said. He's well aware that this isn't the 5-A version being used.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I mean if it's not a stomp then I vote Cluster just due to the massive AP difference.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Nearly planet level he said. He's well aware that this isn't the 5-A version being used.

A High 6-A is nowhere near planet level.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

That's not related to my point. I'm just clarifying what someone else said. You should be telling him.

 

[fandom_22Easy]

Nearly planet level he said. He's well aware that this isn't the 5-A version being used.

A High 6-A is nowhere near planet level.

Fair enough. It is closer to moon level, but you have yet to acknowledge the fact that Cluster still effortlessly one shots due to the massive AP difference.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Low-High regen says hi.

BTW Cluster is 2.4 exatons, Moon level starts at 29.6 exatons.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

And the Cluster it so huge it's likely to destroy all of Chaos anyways.

 

[fandom_22Easy]

Low-High regen says hi.
BTW Cluster is 2.4 exatons, Moon level starts at 29.6 exatons.

I've already addressed that. Chaos cannot reform from nothing. The Cluster is going to one shot, and completely annihilate Chaos. Even if Low-high somehow saved Chaos from dying immediately, which it will not, what does it mean. It just means Chaos gets punched into submission. That's literally how Sonic wins every time.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Chaos's body is made of liquid and can regenerate after being dissipated.

 

[fandom_22Easy]

Are you just going to repeat the "Chaos can regenerate" argument?

Also, no. Chaos cannot come back from being completely annihilated.

"Low-High: The ability to regenerate from a very small piece of your body, such as a puddle or drop of blood, or even something as small as a single cell."

You need to have something to come back from. Turns out being completely annihilated due to the AP difference doesn't help with that.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

The AP difference is 13x. Not really enough to atomize someone.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/692725

"Coefficient for Violent Fragmentation: The value is 69 (j/cc). Coefficient for Vaporization: The value is 25700 (j/cc).

So it takes 372,463768 times more energy to vaporize something than to blow it up"

 

[Schnee_One]

^That's the energy required in one shot

 

[fandom_22Easy]

Fair enough, but...does anyone like...have any counterarguments? Or is the general concesus that Cluster just keeps punching Chaos as it regenerates back from being mush and that just continues for however long.

 

[Udlmaster]

From what I remember wasn't the Cluster just regenerating going to destroy the planet, which is considerably above Lapis, and is likely above the other fusions like Malachite and Alexandrite, and due to the sheer volume of Gems in there, the Cluster is likely one of the strongest Gems period, likely only outclassed by the Diamond Authority, which are laughably above everything else in the verse. So, my vote is basically, Cluster either obliterates or locks him down by repeatedly slapping and destroying him.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I guess that's now 2 official votes for the Cluster and 0 so far for Chaos but Shadow was pulling for him.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Bump.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Can Chaos regenerate from his brain?

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Maybe? But his profile says he's put into great pain if his brain is damaged, and considering the size difference, his brain'd pretty much always be getting hit.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Wouldn't he at least be incapacitated like in Sonic Generations?

 

[CinnabarManx421]

IDK, it depends on how his regen works I guess.

 

[ChosenOrDeath]

Cluster FRA if this isn't a stomp

 

[MYHERO]

I don't even see Chaos's wincons.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Bump.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

I like Lapis Vs Chaos how this got closed on request even though nobody requested it.

But yeah, Cluster takes this, they punch once and Chaos' brain explodes.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/692725
"Coefficient for Violent Fragmentation: The value is 69 (j/cc). Coefficient for Vaporization: The value is 25700 (j/cc).

So it takes 372,463768 times more energy to vaporize something than to blow it up"

hey if you could

can you give me the value for atomazation