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The Boys discussion thread

Deep dodging the punch was an obvious outlier when A-Train literally blitzed him in that entire fight after he dodged
Yeah, I know, I was pretty saying that to the original comment I responded to
What are you guys expecting from finale in terms of feats ?

Top tier feats but no upgrades just the same range we have. Superior feats that upscale or just low level street tier - wall tier the show is consistent for ?
At best some High 8-C/8-B stuff (depends on how and if they destroy the tower).

Also I am curious about the scaling at the end. Marie's blood may scale to Homelander (her physicals shouldn't lol), but the rest would be outlierish. Even Butcher is more consistent on the level of Kimiko and co.
 
Unironically, I feel like the older episodes were written like Edgar Wright, David Leitch or James Gunn movies at times, like the Transluscent fight, whereas the newer seasons are more akin to higher budget CW shows. Scenes like the Starlighter camp fight just don't work for me.
I trust the finale will have the biggest budget allocation and is the most action packed episode, ever, in the show. And somehow the budget allocation would still be better than Invincible.
 
So how would I debunk that 10x potent≠10x stronger in an arguement?
You don't need to? If someone makes that claim simply ask them for concrete proof that it makes them 10x stronger as well, if they can't provide that then they concede its just conjecture with no evidence to try and argue anything else with no solid proof that it equates to a 10x strength boost
 
This isn’t really true. They needed the radioactive blast to have a chance to stop him.
True.

The plan was to depower him.

But what i meant was:

3 supers, were activly beating his ass, now what would happen if we add 1000+ supers that are somewhat on the average superhuman range attack him?
They are gonna beat him into a pulp.
Keep in mind that in Season 5, Homelander already had Soldier Boy on his side which Edgar knew. He’s not in charge of Vought, so I doubt he has enough leverage to pull it off.
And yet, he's still alive because he still has levarege over him.

Maybe stan isn't behind everything like a mastermind, but i can assure you one thing, he will get all his power back once homelander is gone
Just being unafraid of him doesn’t work anymore, as A-Train can tell you.
By "not afraid" i meant 2 things:

  1. Having levarage against him and willing to use it (exp. if Stan was any other guy homelander could have just put him into pieces and put him in orbit, boom end of the story, and yet Homelander doesn't kill him because Homie at his core needs love and attention, whitch he despretatly needs from people who don't give him the usual reaction)
  2. Not having levarage, but not being afraid of him or against him (Like the Legend did)

Yes A-Train died, but that's also because homelander still viewed him below him and was working behind his back for quiete some time for now, so it would have been detrimental not killing him.
 
What are you guys expecting from finale in terms of feats ?

Top tier feats but no upgrades just the same range we have. Superior feats that upscale or just low level street tier - wall tier the show is consistent for ?
Low 7-C Homelander via destroying skyscrapers
 
Random note from the comics: early on, Butcher tells Hughie that the compound v they take specifically makes them 15 to 20 times stronger. That should be enough to have Butcher at Class 5 instead of the unspecified superhuman rating in lifting, right?
 
I am hoping Homelander actually pops off in Episode 8 and beats the fraud allegations

For his death, would you all want him to die pathetically and brutally or tragically and sad? I personally would love if after fully losing everything he simply reached out to his blanket or something reminding everyone he is still literally a broken big baby.
 
genuine question, who do you see more likely killing homelander?
I am hoping Homelander actually pops off in Episode 8 and beats the fraud allegations

For his death, would you all want him to die pathetically and brutally or tragically and sad? I personally would love if after fully losing everything he simply reached out to his blanket or something reminding everyone he is still literally a broken big baby.
 
True.

The plan was to depower him.

But what i meant was:

3 supers, were activly beating his ass, now what would happen if we add 1000+ supers that are somewhat on the average superhuman range attack him?
They are gonna beat him into a pulp.

And yet, he's still alive because he still has levarege over him.

Maybe stan isn't behind everything like a mastermind, but i can assure you one thing, he will get all his power back once homelander is gone

By "not afraid" i meant 2 things:

  1. Having levarage against him and willing to use it (exp. if Stan was any other guy homelander could have just put him into pieces and put him in orbit, boom end of the story, and yet Homelander doesn't kill him because Homie at his core needs love and attention, whitch he despretatly needs from people who don't give him the usual reaction)
  2. Not having levarage, but not being afraid of him or against him (Like the Legend did)

Yes A-Train died, but that's also because homelander still viewed him below him and was working behind his back for quiete some time for now, so it would have been detrimental not killing him.
There’s a difference between Edgar and the Legend. Edgar has never respected him once, while the Legend spoke to him with blunt truthfulness.

Most Supes can’t fly, he could hover and kill most of them with heat vision in an open space.
do you think they will explain why all of a sudden he had that allucination? there are quiete a lot of phychic supers (expecially that one we saw in ep 7), maybe Stan had a backup plan to make homie go even more insane with a mind type super
I think it’s fairly likely Edgar will get back into power by the end, since the show is cynical and he’s based on comic Stillwell. What I don’t think is likely is that this all part of his plan, or anyone’s plan. Homelander has been increasingly unstable, it’s not far fetched he’d snap without someone’s master plan.
 
i dont even care if he dies or not, just make him go absolutely postal or this season can go to hell. for all the “whoaa hes gonna snap guys its gonna happen i swear” it better actually happen

truthfully id rather him just kill everyone but i doubt this show has the balls to do that. he’s probably gonna die pathetically with zero emotion in some ridiculous way with his biggest feat of destruction being 8-C or something. wont even break in to tier 7
 
I hope Homelander has no great scaling upgrades this ep.
He should remain a Spidey victim because thats my Selfless goat beating a good for nothing narcissistic false god.
 
just make him go absolutely postal or this season can go to hell
I think it'd be cool if there's a protest he snapped at some soldiers who aren't following his orders, like when he killed that guy at the end of season 3, but he decides to just rampage across Manhattan instead of killing just a few people.
They nerfed Marie to drop hints about Gen V Season 3
Why do writers think they need to compromise the quality of their shows just so they can have spin-offs and sequels? There are literally a thousand Supes, nearly a dozen of whom (besides Homelander and Soldier Boy) are explicitly very physically powerful, so surely there's someone we haven't seen yet (maybe someone bloodless or inspired by an exotic Supe from the comics, like Malchemical) who could be a suitable antagonist for a third season of Gen V without undoing the end of season 2. Is there not a single creative bone in these peoples' bodies?
That should be enough to have Butcher at Class 5 instead of the unspecified superhuman rating in lifting, right?
IIRC, there's a bunch of feats where The Boys also tear Supes apart. I'll make a thread if I have time today.
 
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Honestly Gen V s3 was unneeded anyway. Season 2 was ass and pretty much everything about the characters got wrapped up.

Marie got her sister, Emma got her confidence, Kate got her redemption and Sam got a chance to grow.

Literally nothing interesting left for them.
 
Honestly Gen V s3 was unneeded anyway. Season 2 was ass and pretty much everything about the characters got wrapped up.

Marie got her sister, Emma got her confidence, Kate got her redemption and Sam got a chance to grow.

Literally nothing interesting left for them.
No good fights either.Polarity heavily carried that season.
 
They should have kept Soldier Boy awake and had Ryan fight and beat him in 1v1. V1 vs Natural born.

Not only this would be a baller fight. Since Soldier Boy thinks he cheated with getting V, while Ryan was born with his powers.

But it would also help cement Homelander higher since he low diffed both Ryan and SB.
 
They should have kept Soldier Boy awake and had Ryan fight and beat him in 1v1. V1 vs Natural born.

Not only this would be a baller fight. Since Soldier Boy thinks he cheated with getting V, while Ryan was born with his powers.

But it would also help cement Homelander higher since he low diffed both Ryan and SB.
Woah what?? Hell nah? Thats cool and very nice. But what we need more gore and weird stuff like dog supes and cat supes sniffing each other. Get out.
 
It wouldn't make sense because the Season didn't build up Ryan training or his strength. He got curbstomped by Homelander, it wouldn't make sense for him to beat Soldier Boy.

Maybe if Season 5 took a different approach since episode 2, it would be better.
Soldier boy also got curb stomped by Homelander too. Besides the blast, he is no threat to Homelander and was barely able to nick him. He was getting one hand choked and would have died in Herogasm if not for Butcher.

Ryan has put the most damage on Homelander, besides the radiation room.

Plus Ryan has advantages. Like flight and ranged heat vision which can burn even HL.
 
I mean thats not saying much when Soldier Boy also got stomped pretty quickly.
That's not really a stomp. Homelander took Soldier Boy off guard and knocked him out with a headlock. You don't need to be significantly stronger than someone to do that, since it's just stopping oxygen flow.
 
I mean thats not saying much when Soldier Boy also got stomped pretty quickly.
Soldier Boy didn't get stomped, he got sneaked. He could fight Homelander somewhat evenly.

Soldier boy also got curb stomped by Homelander too. Besides the blast, he is no threat to Homelander and was barely able to nick him. He was getting one hand choked and would have died in Herogasm if not for Butcher.

Ryan has put the most damage on Homelander, besides the radiation room.

A nose bleed is the most Ryan did. Also, did we watch the same fight? Soldier Boy at least put up a decent fight.
 
It wasn't a stomp at herogasm either lol.

A nose bleed is the most Ryan did. Also, did we watch the same fight? Soldier Boy at least put up a decent fight.
Ryan atleast made him bleed. SB literally did nothing, the only little bruise Homie got was from Butcher.

In 1v1 it literally ends in a minute. Even with Butcher's support, they both get whooped.

Also Ryan gave him burn wounds with heat vision. If can do that to HL, he can definitely do that to Soldier boy.
 
Ryan atleast made him bleed
Soldier Boy could make him bleed, and is stronger than Maeve, who also could.

I'd also argue that SB's tougher and a faster than Ryan, since HL dodged all of his attacks leisurely and hurt him so badly that he was unable to move with just a couple slams while trying not to kill him.
In Herogasm he gets choked in like a minute or less
Honestly, this is why the claim that they're almost equal never made sense to me. SB can't even budge HL here.
 
This was a sucker punch, so I am not sure how safe it is to use.
Honestly, this is why the claim that they're almost equal never made sense to me. SB can't even budge HL here.
They were never almost equals, Homelander The Boys and etc. THOUGHT they were due to the stories he heard. Thats why he mocks SB here about it

Stan even implies as a toddler Homelander showed more potential than SB at his prime
 
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