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that's why i didn't put it on eval yet.
i just wanted to know what u guys thought.
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The Boys discussion thread
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i just wanted to know what u guys thought.
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I'll add the changes when i get home
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Well technically speaking humans have sound manipulation and durability bypass. It's the legendary technique of slapping the ear with a cupped hand to tear eardrums.
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OK, we do have a little bit of breading room, i assume something on the lines of mach 15/20
I'm sorry about the calc quality, i did it at school and in like ten minutes lol.
So, i do agree that the cloud cealing is wrong.
Hughie doesn't really fall on the bare minimum where clouds form, as we can see in the scene where he falls that he can see the cealing of many clouds below
Hughie does fall for a cupple of seconds (those are the 2373,21 m that he does) + the bare minimum height for clouds to form (i couldn't find anything other than below 2000m, so i just rolled 2km for than calc as an high end) as starlight catches him on a point where they look to be on the minimum point of where clouds form.
Vid for reference
Now that i have a better look they look like cumulus those below Hughie, so we got around 600m up to 2000m, but i guess using a low end is safer as it does look more like 2.973,21 m than 4.973,21 m.
Is this better?
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The calc is Massively Hypersonic, even if I just use the humans that are frozen in place. Using the bullets, he’s moving at sub relativistic speed
I’ll wait for it to be evaluated. But I really just think this is an outlier
Just_Butchering
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Waiting to get checked, but Superhuman to Subsonic/+ results
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I'm aware he's not at the bottom end height of the clouds, for stratus clouds which I suggested using those on a lower end sit a 600ish meters but the more average height you could use is their 1219m height. Being anywhere really above 300 meters will have you above low level clouds so that by itself doesn't really justify your use of the cumulonimbus clouds when its pretty evidently not one of those.
the bare minimum height is again like 300m, its literally on our cloud page you sourced so I'm still not sure why you're saying 2km is the lowest cloud height you can find. Also clouds aren't just 100% uniformly dense the bottom height to top height isn't one solid mass of cloud unless its particularly really dense you can and often do have many bits of cloud sitting at different heights. Also you can simply just px scale the lowest height Hughie is at right before he's caught by starlight, I'll do the calc since I wanna put feats in a compilation blog already
Also you used a 7 second timeframe when 35 seconds going to 47 seconds is a 12 second time difference.
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Superhuman seems consistent for at least the mid tiers like Maeve (pre training), and both Black Noirs
The Supersonic+ definitely isn’t as bad as the Hypersonic+ that it was before. Assuming it gets evaluated, I wouldn’t mind applying it to his flight speed, and maybe A-Train’s running speed
Would it have to scale to Homelander’s combat and reaction speed necessarily? I mean he really just had to speed to Butcher, grab him, and turn. And we’ve seen he can turn at A-Train’s speeds. It doesn’t have to mean he fully perceives things at that speed, right? Not certain though
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it wouldn't really be applicable to flight speed since this by its nature would have to be a reaction feat so its either outlier or not in this case that's up for the CRT to determine when all is said and done
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Ah, I see. I mean, he still has to move that distance, so it would have to be flight too, right?
Anyway, if it has to be a reaction feat… idk, feels contradictory. I mean, Homelander and Soldier Boys fight was perceptible to normal humans. Homelander never visually appears to have enhanced perception. He’s even explicitly statued by A-Train. You could argue A-Train is way higher in speed, but that’s contradicted by Transonic being impressive for A-Train, him still taking around half a second to run 400 meters, and all of him and Homelander’s statements being in the Transonic to Supersonic ranges
So unfortunately, I think the feat may still have to be considered an outlier anyway, but it’s still up for debate
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We don't see if his actual movement and only knows that Butcher detonates the bomb and that homelander saves his somehow, so unless we argue he started moving right as butcher held up the detonator to save him just before and right as he was pressing it then we'd still have consider it a reaction feat since he would have to consciously move to shield butcher and just like fly into him splatting him.
but yeah as you said its definitely contradictory to basically every other showing in the verse so it's likely an outlier
Spinoirr
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did Ryan just save their scaling lol. Also that'd probably be massively hypersonic+
ShionAH
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I LOVE the way Homelander is going insane, not caring about his milk addiction being known, not caring about Soldier Boy and insulting him directly (ngl I think that actually hurt SB), beating Ryan to half dead, lying to his face. He truly lost his humanity I believe, I wonder if he'll just kill Edgar or not.
Deep?? Holy?? I didn't think I'd like him this season but what he pulled against Noir? That's super cool, I love how he is becoming worse for Homelander's respect.
Deep?? Holy?? I didn't think I'd like him this season but what he pulled against Noir? That's super cool, I love how he is becoming worse for Homelander's respect.
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I’m used to the Marvel schedule for Daredevil where they release it late at night, and then I watch it the next day. So I thought it would be released tonight lol. As I googled around it seems Amazon releases them at the crack of dawn.
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So supes with V1 are just straight up immortal I guess.
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Well Homelander is actually scary again. And we have reached the part were we can start seeing the alliances and positions forming. Ryan speculation got absolutely destroyed, couldn't even move Butcher and while he did make Homelander bleed, he got rekt once HL got serious.
And Soldier Boy is just chillin....and making Firecracker's fire crackle.
And Soldier Boy is just chillin....and making Firecracker's fire crackle.
ShionAH
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I am betting Homelander is gonna murder him as his breaking point
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If that happens, it will be a big brutal fight
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Spoiler from the trailer but i think we see him administering v1 to him. Or being near him when he administers v1 and is shooting the lasers into the sky. So I think he decides to team up with Homelander.
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He has no feat near that so it doesn't really save anything its thens of thousands of times higher than any next feat
ShionAH
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Homelander C4 Feat and Ryan's Flight Speed and A Train making Bullets and Beams statue are all consistent scaling for Hypersonic ranges no?
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were given a time frame for Ryan flying from Russia to North America?
ShionAH
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She writes the text on screen and Ryan says he flew the moment he saw the text, now I am not sure if this means that was the time it took him to come or if there was other text we didn't see.
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Is Supersonic+
Dozens to hundreds of times higher than even what A-Trains feat would yield that's already an outlier even to that level of scale
MHS and an outlier to where he consistently
So no it doesn't
ShionAH
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Huh
A rule in my book is that if you have to consistently use the word outlier, it isn't an outlier anymore
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???
These feats literally break the plot and have a fuckload of anti-feats. They are, by definition, outliers.
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I've said several times now that the Hyper+ is bunk and fraud, did a recalc that's Super+
This can be the case on a case by case basis but ultimately is fruitless in this context when you're using 3 feats that are each hundreds to upwards tens of thousands of a speed gap to justify scaling between them when most of the feats range far far lower than that for the shit thats actually applicable to combat and reactions
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That’s not the definition of an outlier. It is rather inconsistent, since the calcs contradict the narrative.
ShionAH
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I am not so active in this thread. Apologies. How tho?
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It deviates significantly from what we've seen in the show as far as what they are capable of and is completely inconsistent with the plot. That's an outlier.
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