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The Boys discussion thread

Another very fun episode imo. I'm starting to be very confused on what the GenV gang is doing tho, they've been awful nonexistent so far.
 
It deviates significantly from what we've seen in the show as far as what they are capable of and is completely inconsistent with the plot. That's an outlier.
We determine outliers based on the dataset we are given. On the verse page, I can see 5 other calcs aside from the hypersonic+, and now we have an additional 2 more, making it 3/7 calcs that break the narrative. That’s no longer an outlier, since the high calcs take up a large percentage of the total calcs.

It breaks the scaling because it’s inconsistent with the statements, not because it’s an outlier among the other calcs.
 
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On the verse page
There's your first problem.
I can see 5 other calcs
All of them are Subsonic to Supersonic, and the supersonic ones are either performed by God Tiers with flight speed or A Train, who statues God Tiers. Pretty Consistent if you ask me
aside from the hypersonic+
That feat got recalled to Supersonic+, it's consistent with the rest.
and now we have an additional 2 more
1, and 1 alone. Hypersonic+ doesn't exist anymore, and the Ryan feat got debunked by 57, whose interpretation I find to line up far better than the other.
making it 3/7 calcs that break the narrative.
1/7, not including the countless feats that are uncalced that would get peak human to subsonic which would make that look more like 1/20.
That’s no longer an outlier, since the high calcs take up a large percentage of the total calcs.
You have exactly 1 feat that isn't some form of Supersonic. Not only that, but it's thousands of times higher than than the next highest calculation, and isn't supported by the dozens of times characters of comparable speed are hit or blitzed by bullets. It would make up a fraction of the calcs, not a "large" percentage.
It breaks the scaling because it’s inconsistent with the statements, not because it’s an outlier among the other calcs.
It does both, actually.
 
In his conversation with Edgar, Homelander had implied that he had gone into space by saying that New York looked better from space; he had also been shown to be in space in a promotional image.
Furthermore, in the new episode, Hugie said that if the virus were to spread, Homelander just fly up into space and wait for it will all over.

This means that Homelander can exceed escape velocity, which is 11,200 m/s. But of course, this applies only to his flight speed and does not scale to his reaction or combat speed.
 
In his conversation with Edgar, Homelander had implied that he had gone into space by saying that New York looked better from space; he had also been shown to be in space in a promotional image.
Furthermore, in the new episode, Hugie said that if the virus were to spread, Homelander just fly up into space and wait for it will all over.

This means that Homelander can exceed escape velocity, which is 11,200 m/s. But of course, this applies only to his flight speed and does not scale to his reaction or combat speed.
It doesn't, escape velocity only matters for things that need to be propelled by fuel or some kind of intial non continuous force

Something can leave the planet even if it doesn't initially reach escape velocity, as long as it has consistent, sustained thrust.

Escape velocity is the speed you need to "instantly" overcome gravity, like a projectile fired from a cannon. However, if you have a continuous force pushing you away from the planet, you can leave at a slower speed.

Homelandwe doesn't need fuel or some shit and creates his own thrust when flying
 
@Dalesean027 I think you should use Human Proportions Calculator instead of pixel scaling their head to find their head's height.
I know I can't ping anyone.

This isn't really necessary in cases where you can just directly measure something with no issue and besides for the height of a face, the values I got are consistent anyways so the difference would be negligible
 
Is it possible to know how fast the disease would spread? Hughie did say Homelander would be able to leave the Earth's atmosphere into space if Butcher used the virus infront of him
 
There's no one set disease speed and airborne stuff has to kinda travel with the ambient air in the area so like 🫡 not really applicable to anything stat wise
 
Yeah, we don’t really know how long it took Ryan to fly from Russia. Just that it took a decent amount of time. So not really a speed feat

Butcher implies Ryan could kill him if he wanted. But given that he only managed to harm Homelander with his heat vision, then it’s likely that’s how he’d kill Butcher. So it seems to go with what we already have, that his heat vision scales to Homelander

Physically, he’s durable enough that Homelander has to put serious power into his punches to hurt him. He could kind of harm Homelander with his strikes, but not much more than mere annoyance. So it seems like the way we have his profile now, with him scaling above any non tier tier supe, sounds about right

So yeah, his showing in this episode really just solidifies his current profile imo
 
Yeah, we don’t really know how long it took Ryan to fly from Russia. Just that it took a decent amount of time. So not really a speed feat

Butcher implies Ryan could kill him if he wanted. But given that he only managed to harm Homelander with his heat vision, then it’s likely that’s how he’d kill Butcher. So it seems to go with what we already have, that his heat vision scales to Homelander

Physically, he’s durable enough that Homelander has to put serious power into his punches to hurt him. He could kind of harm Homelander with his strikes, but not much more than mere annoyance. So it seems like the way we have his profile now, with him scaling above any non tier tier supe, sounds about right

So yeah, his showing in this episode really just solidifies his current profile imo
Actually it had to be a really short period of time. We actually see Zoe send the text right before Huey goes and tries to talk to her. Afterwards it cuts to Homelander's milk fever dream and then immediately cuts back to Zoe opening the hatch and Ryan appearing. It really shouldn't have taken that long for her to walk to the hatch and climb up the stairs. Obviously there will be a little guesswork but it couldn't have been a large amount of time considering Stan managed to book it to the door in a few seconds when Deep's crew made their way in.
 
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Actually it had to be a really short period of time. We actually see Zoe send the text right before Huey goes and tries to talk to her. Afterwards it cuts to Homelander's milk fever dream and then immediately cuts back to Zoe opening the hatch and Ryan appears. It really shouldn't have taken that long for her to walk to the hatch and climb up the stairs. Obviously there will be a little guesswork on the time it took but it couldn't have been extremely long considering Stan managed to book it to the door in a few seconds when Deeps crew made their way in.

Well. Based off the time we can count from when it looks like she sent the text, to when Ryan arrived, was at least 1 minutes and 2 seconds. Again, we don’t know how long of a cut there was between scenes

We also don’t know where in Russia Ryan was. Russia is huge. We really don’t even know where Stan’s bunker is, but I’ll assume somewhere in New York.

If we assume Ryan was close, around Moscow, we could say he is about 4,600 miles away

So he’s around massively hypersonic with these assumptions

But again, it’s just one feat. We have to make some assumptions due to lack of context. And honestly, I know the Boys are pretty infamous for having a few scenes where the distance traveled makes little sense, like the Deep having Supersonic dolphins or whatever. So I’m still iffy on it
 
She most likely sent the text when the Boys arrived at Stan's bunker. But there was skip between scenes as we see that they have removed a lot of flies and stuff from the boxes and the boxes are all over near the chairs.

So let's say they went through three or four files you know just starting, that's still a good bit of time.
 
Also is it me or has Homelander's tolerance actually grown. Like in the Herogasm his reaction to being even a little hurt was surprised and fear.

But against Ryan he gets socked in the face, bleeding nose and burns but not much reaction to it.

The biggest problem with Homelander even in closer matches was his abysmally weak courage, but he seems to be growing as a fighter.
 
Also is it me or has Homelander's tolerance actually grown. Like in the Herogasm his reaction to being even a little hurt was surprised and fear.

But against Ryan he gets socked in the face, bleeding nose and burns but not much reaction to it.

The biggest problem with Homelander even in closer matches was his abysmally weak courage, but he seems to be growing as a fighter.
"Homelander is just a bully" will no longer be a thing; he will be a seasoned fighter (or close to it).
 
  • So, V1 is once again confirmed to making you live forever (in terms if aging)
  • While clearly weaker, Ryan could somewhat hurt Homelander, and drew blood from him
  • Hughie once again withstood getting slammed into a wooden wall and somehow hold his own against Maverick?
  • MM took casual hits that made him break a table
  • So Starlight can fight Dogknott. So her and Marie scale. Makes sense, Marie always downscaled from Sam anyways.
 
Either MM and Hughie are strong enough to be action hero level or the wood they use the boys universe is weak sauce.

Tbh, I just think they’re that strong. I mean, Hughie and Butcher have also survived wall level shockwaves im pretty sure. And Maverick was punching around Marie. I don’t think that scales the boys to Marie or anything, I just think Marie is super inconsistent. In gen v season 2, a regular guy drew blood from her. But she’s still listed as having super strength, so I think it’s just low showings that aren’t representative of her actual strength and durability
 
Either MM and Hughie are strong enough to be action hero level or the wood they use the boys universe is weak sauce.
They have several wall level feats though
And Maverick was punching around Marie. I don’t think that scales the boys to Marie or anything, I just think Marie is super inconsistent. In gen v season 2, a regular guy drew blood from her. But she’s still listed as having super strength, so I think it’s just low showings that aren’t representative of her actual strength and durability
Marie downgrade to 10-B (?
 
On the other note, whose death are you look forward to the most. Like we know how some will end, but the more speculative ones are more fun.

I am most interested in seeing how they wrap up the Deep. He did Knock out Noir, I think Noir if he really is as evil as his comic verison is going to make the Deep float with with fishes.
 
On the other note, whose death are you look forward to the most. Like we know how some will end, but the more speculative ones are more fun.

I am most interested in seeing how they wrap up the Deep. He did Knock out Noir, I think Noir if he really is as evil as his comic verison is going to make the Deep float with with fishes.
Annie, fry The Deep like a fishstick

Cook him with a Solar beam
 
The Deep mentioned something about a piranha in one of the ads.

I guess we can use Dogknott to actually determine the difference between Annie with and without power. Without power, she had as much trouble as she did with Deep. With power, she one shot him after he'd been fighting Marie for a minute.
 
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