The advisor meets the Gunslinger of Gilead

[Peppersalt43]

Immortality Negation Guy : 0
Ghost that give big sad : 0
Incon : 0

Speed equalized
Both have prior knowledge

 

[DontTalkDT]

Funny enough I doubt his immortality negation would work, as the ectoplasm body of a ghost is more like a remote-controlled puppet than their actual body.
Kill it and Ezekiel just creates a new puppet.

Then he gives the guy a ghost touch via tentacles after holding him in place with telekinesis. Or something like that.

That the guy could probably also not see and hear the ghost doesn't help either.

 

[Peppersalt43]

That the guy could probably also not see and hear the ghost doesn't help either.

I mean, he does have telepathy which lets him see the minds of people around him and combined with his ability to sense when he's being watched and his skill and experiences, he can probably deal with an invisible opponent

holding him in place with telekinesis

Roland has an LS advantage

Funny enough I doubt his immortality negation would work, as the ectoplasm body of a ghost is more like a remote-controlled puppet than their actual body.

Wait, then why does it have dimensional travel if it's just the puppet that's in the physical world? Also he can probably just stop him from regenerating that puppet again

 

[DontTalkDT]

I mean, he does have telepathy which lets him see the minds of people around him and combined with his ability to sense when he's being watched and his skill and experiences, he can probably deal with an invisible opponent

Arguably telepathy wouldn't work, as the ghost's true self is in the afterlife.

Roland has an LS advantage

And? You can't apply your LS when you are levitated off the ground, unless you can fly. Or, given the wall level durability, Ezekiel could basically just kill him immediately with a telekinetic blast.

Wait, then why does it have dimensional travel if it's just the puppet that's in the physical world?

That's speaking in terms of manifestations.

Also he can probably just stop him from regenerating that puppet again

How? Like, whatever the original bullet hits has no connection to the new one.

 

[Peppersalt43]

How? Like, whatever the original bullet hits has no connection to the new one.

OK so I just read through a previous thread involving Roland. He very well can kill off beings with Type 9

Most of his anti-immortality feats come from killing off this guy

 

[DontTalkDT]

That guy's profile reads

Note: While it is implied that Roland's guns might have been able to kill the Crimson King's avatar prior to him becoming undead, this theory was never proven, and the basis for that argument lay in the in-universe legend that the guns are capable of killing immortals. (Similarly to Excalibur, the sword which was melted down in order to forge them.) The legend itself also holds no context inside or outside of the story, and the supposed immortal-killing aspect of Roland's guns has never been shown at any point within the series.

So apparently he can not actually do that at all.

And even if it apparently is about killing the avatar not the true self. (and the way these beings make avatars is different at that)

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

I agree with DontTalk here, Rolands Guns have a clear limit

 

[Peppersalt43]

I agree with DontTalk here, Rolands Guns have a clear limit

Damnit. OK

 

[Peppersalt43]

Arguably telepathy wouldn't work, as the ghost's true self is in the afterlife.

Ah, OK then. He does still have the danger sense and feats of hitting invisible opponents via ricochet. Even if Ezekiel keeps coming back, Roland should have good enough experience with demons to know how to deal with one

 

[DontTalkDT]

Ezekiel isn't just invisible, though, but also can't be heard and stuff.
And Roland doesn't get to live as long as to figure much out. Ezekiel can end him with one or two telekinetic blasts.

 

[Peppersalt43]

And Roland doesn't get to live as long as to figure much out. Ezekiel can end him with one or two telekinetic blasts.

What's the range? Because I recall Roland has like, several hundred meters of range

In fact once he figures out Ezekiel's weakness, he can probably snipe his source

 

[DontTalkDT]

Just several meters, sure.
But I don't see any way for Roland to figure anything out from that distance. What he sees would just be a forest and some grassy terrain. There is no plausible way for him to figure out what to do that way.

 

[Peppersalt43]

But I don't see any way for Roland to figure anything out from that distance. What he sees would just be a forest and some grassy terrain.

In the Notable Attack/Technique section, he has feats for his enhanced senses which includes being able to see the Crimson King from 5 miles away

There is no plausible way for him to figure out what to do that way.

To add onto that, assuming Ezekiel doesn't get affected by Immortality negation, Roland may just think Ezekiel to be a minion or something. He usually sends his copies through his Source, right?

 

[Peppersalt43]

Well that was fun

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

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[Peppersalt43]

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[Peppersalt43]

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[DontTalkDT]

In the Notable Attack/Technique section, he has feats for his enhanced senses which includes being able to see the Crimson King from 5 miles away

Which is nice, but doesn't solve the problem that neither is the source likely to be in his line of sight nor would he have anything hinting at it being of relevance even if he did see it.

He has as much reason to go for the source as he has to shoot a random pebble on the sidewalk.

To add onto that, assuming Ezekiel doesn't get affected by Immortality negation, Roland may just think Ezekiel to be a minion or something. He usually sends his copies through his Source, right?

The ghost doesn't manifest from the source, if that's what you think. They can take form anywhere close by.

 

[Peppersalt43]

The ghost doesn't manifest from the source, if that's what you think. They can take form anywhere close by.

Well ****

You know what, Roland's not gonna be in the strongest 9-A anyway. I'm gonna give him prior knowledge

 

[DontTalkDT]

Then it's a stomp in the other side, since you placed the opponent out of range with knowledge of the one weakness of Ezekiel.