Tenkaichi: Nihon Saikyou Bugeisha Ketteisen Discussion Thread

[RandomGuy2345]

So 9-B+ to 9-A for this verse?

The manga does look pretty interesting, but I don't know if I have time to read it...

 

[yoloninja3000]

Verse prolly caps at subsonic. Choko couldn't even dodge Nobunaga's bullets when they met, so, it's likely that the verse won't breach into supersonic territory.

It didn't seem like dodged at all, he just stood there

 

[azontr]

By the way was Musashi literally sleeping before fighting Honda or was that figurative?

He was actually sleeping, yeah.

 

[azontr]

It didn't seem like dodged at all, he just stood there

He did just stand there, but I think if he could've dodged, he would've.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So 9-B+ to 9-A for this verse?

Anyone? Is this true?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Maybe, it might differ depending on some things, but there are apparently a few 8-C feats in later chapters, so I gotta see those first :3

Spoiler

I still wish Toda won, he was cool af. I'm sad now

 

[azontr]

There are potential Tier 8 feats in later chapters, but the most recent feat we have is 9-B+ to 9-A, should Riki's calc get accepted once he posts it.

 

[azontr]

Spoiler

This is the potential Tier 8 feat I mean. Happens in chapter 21

 

[Rikimarox2]

That looks hard af to calc, so I gotta see the entire fight first, in case there are some better shots, or better destruction shiz.

 

[azontr]

Spoiler

Here's a better look at the destruction. Same chapter.

 

[yoloninja3000]

For speed feats theres kamizumi cutting an arrow mid flight

 

[Rikimarox2]

Spoiler

Here's a better look at the destruction. Same chapter.

Still quite wonky tbh, but I tried an asshat calc attempt at it, and still got shiz like 9-A (Literally 0.011 tons, virtually the same as Honda's feat), though there's a probability that it is wrong, gotta ask around some calc members about it.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

For speed feats theres kamizumi cutting an arrow mid flight

I think that's subsonic.

 

[azontr]

I think that's subsonic.

The arrow itself is subsonic, but cutting it could get higher if calced.

 

[Phoenks]

I've already put any worth-while feat on my notes in the pc for Honda and Musashi, as well as others. Analytical prediction is probably one of it, as it was stated he has seen through Honda's spear, and managed to block and dodge quite a few of it, although not all of them since Honda was a ******* beast.

Where do you get analytical prediction ?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Where do you get analytical prediction ?

That's kind of what I got when he said "He has seen through Honda's spear"? I mean, dude was barely able to do shit against Honda, and it was hyped up as shit when he saw through his attack, and has been able to dodge it.

What else seeing through it means?

There's also the fact that both him and Honda saw how the fight will end, though doubt on that one being Analytical prediction.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

That's kind of what I got when he said "He has seen through Honda's spear"? I mean, dude was barely able to do shit against Honda, and it was hyped up as shit when he saw through his attack, and has been able to dodge it.

What else seeing through it means?

There's also the fact that both him and Honda saw how the fight will end, though doubt on that one being Analytical prediction.

The first example is likely Analytical Prediction, but admittedly it is fairly vague.

The second example seems like Precog tbh.

 

[Phoenks]

That's kind of what I got when he said "He has seen through Honda's spear"? I mean, dude was barely able to do shit against Honda, and it was hyped up as shit when he saw through his attack, and has been able to dodge it.

What else seeing through it means?

There's also the fact that both him and Honda saw how the fight will end, though doubt on that one being Analytical prediction.

Well, I guess that's fair. Though their prediction is pretty meh.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Well, I guess that's fair. Though their prediction is pretty meh.

Yeah, it ain't some god tier shiz.

Toda's one is pretty darn good, though. Mf can see through their brain signals and shit. Albeit range is shitty.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Yeah.

Their Anal Predict is pretty mid.

 

[azontr]

Kamiizumi literal has Universal analytical prediction yall.

Why yall focused on Musashi

 

[Phoenks]

Yeah, it ain't some god tier shiz.

Toda's one is pretty darn good, though. Mf can see through their brain signals and shit. Albeit range is shitty.

Bruh.

Fuma is hot and all but...

Spoiler

Toda should've won 100%. Smh. Better abilities. Better motivation. Better skill. + Doesn't use steroids mid-fight.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Why yall focused on Musashi

Cuz he's pretty cool, tbh.

Bruh.

Fuma is hot and all but...

Spoiler

Toda should've won 100%. Smh. Better abilities. Better motivation. Better skill. + Doesn't use steroids mid-fight.

Honestly agreed 100%

 

[First_Witch]

I just remembered why I hated the Yagyu vs Adam fight even more now.

Werent they fighting on Adams hometurf?

 

[azontr]

Fuuma vs Toda was good, even if it was kinda nonsensical that Toda lost.

Yagyu vs Adam was just... it wasn't even an appealing fight, it was just utterly dreadful. Cannot remember a single instance in the fight where I felt even remotely entertained or enthralled by the characters.

 

[Phoenks]

Some stuff for Toda

Spoiler

Master Swordsman, Enhanced Senses (Has extraordinary alertness and senses. Could use hearing in combat to sense and evade attacks), Extrasensory Perception (With White Knight's Eye, he able to "see" more clearly than those who can actually see,[6] as there is nothing that it can not see.[7] Takes in every single scrap of data from his surroundings. Tremors, heat, and the direction of the wind[7]), Analytical Prediction (By contracting the range of White Night's Eye, Toda could capture even the firing of the synapses within Fuma's brain, allowing him to see her next step[8]), Pain Tolerance (Continued to strike after having his heart ripped out[9])

 

[azontr]

Looking good.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Some stuff for Toda

Spoiler

Master Swordsman, Enhanced Senses (Has extraordinary alertness and senses. Could use hearing in combat to sense and evade attacks), Extrasensory Perception (With White Knight's Eye, he able to "see" more clearly than those who can actually see,[6] as there is nothing that it can not see.[7] Takes in every single scrap of data from his surroundings. Tremors, heat, and the direction of the wind[7]), Analytical Prediction (By contracting the range of White Night's Eye, Toda could capture even the firing of the synapses within Fuma's brain, allowing him to see her next step[8]), Pain Tolerance (Continued to strike after having his heart ripped out[9])

That Pain Tolerance and Anal Predict is insane ngl.

 

[Phoenks]

That Pain Tolerance and Anal Predict is insane ngl.

It's pretty much mind-reading prediction lmao. Not much you can do to get past it.

 

[azontr]

And the way that he has it is literally metal af

Spoiler

His dead grandson is literally a ******* Stand that he has that tells him all of this information while he's blind, because in life his grandson, Zenzaemon, promised to help guide Toda when he went blind.

 

[Rikimarox2]

And the way that he has it is literally metal af

Spoiler

His dead grandson is literally a ******* Stand that he has that tells him all of this information while he's blind, because in life his grandson, Zenzaemon, promised to help guide Toda when he went blind.

Frrrr that shit goes hard af.

 

[Rikimarox2]

BTW, would this image be suitable enough for Toda's pic:

Or should we just use the colored version of him, although that one has his eyes open?

 

[azontr]

I'd prefer the colored version TBH.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Man, Adam vs Yagyu fight was...

idk

bland?

Which is weird tbh, I didn't feel excited, neither did I have any fun like Musashi vs Honda or Toda vs Fuma fights.

 

[azontr]

You probably had that reaction because the fight is b a d.

 

[azontr]

Naw Riki looking at your calc and literally I did that shit right the first time, I literally got nearly the same value with the same method

I feel so autistic right now

 

[azontr]

HEY LIBERALS

Tenkaichi: Speed feat thingy majig

vsbattles.fandom.com

Look at this.

 

[azontr]

bump

 

[Rikimarox2]

Alright peeps, bit of sad news kind of, but turns out with Craters, you gotta use Spherical cap volume instead of a hemisphere volume (There are exceptions, of course)

Due to it, the calc got downgraded to Low-end 4.6~ Megajoules, and High-end 14.1 Megajoules (Wall level and Wall level+)

No more 9-A But it honestly doesn't change much, and I'm just waiting for Armor to give the green light as he has already commented on it.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Due to it, the calc got downgraded to Low-end 4.6~ Megajoules, and High-end 14.1 Megajoules (Wall level and Wall level+)