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Tasha vs Teru

Arkenis

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Invasion Arc
Ap: 1.04 Teratons to 10.4 Teratons
Class G
Recapturing Tokyo arc to Neverland Arc
Ap: 582.66 Gigatons of TNT to 1.16 Teratons of TNT with Scar
Class M
Equal Speed
Tasha doesn't need to remove his limit/seal, one because the difference in power isn't great (him and Teru), two because if he does, he'll only use it short (so far 10s) and afterwards he goes blind in one eye due to it.


Tasha:
Teru:
Incon: EnderLord8, Jackof_noTrades068
 
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I'm following this and will be replying here tomorrow this guy looks cool

Btw I presume since you didn't mention Teru having Purity her way to reach Low 6-B will only be Scar Transformation right? The drawbacks already mean I don't see her busting it out besides as a fight ender.
 
I'm following this and will be replying here tomorrow this guy looks cool

Btw I presume since you didn't mention Teru having Purity her way to reach Low 6-B will only be Scar Transformation right? The drawbacks already mean I don't see her busting it out besides as a fight ender.
Can both be granted?
 
Can both be granted?
No cause Teru gave Purity back to Ai long before she gained Scar Transformation. And she hasn’t used both at the same time. So it’s one or the other.
Although I will note if you opt to give her Purity then Teru doesn’t get a speed amp. As she will be starting at Low 6-B and not her base state. While Scar form she can turn into at any point in the battle she thinks it’s needed.
 
Ok, so scanning over Tasha's profile. It doesn't seem like he has any heat resistance for himself or within Mana Abilities. So Shy's fire attacks should be able to force him to retreat if she radiates it as an aura or burn him pretty bad if it hits him head on. Could also make him back off if he opts to grab her with his Class G LS (well if he's much of a grappler but he seems more like a mid to long range gunslinger based on what I am reading). Granted Shy's not the type to murder someone in cold blood on sight, so I wouldn't see her trying to reduce him to ash or whatever

But, it seems like even getting tagged by his bullets once or twice will put Shy down cause of these effects. As Shy doesn't resist these. Maybe her Purification Type 2 light would cure these? Not the most sure.
Tasha's Low-Mid will also make it hard for Shy to beat him as she will be 1.7x weaker than him while she is in base.
Yet on Shy's end she does have Acrobatics, Flight and Analytical Prediction. So the odds of her being hit depend on how good of a shot Tasha is, which I'll let others infer me of. Or since Shy's Aura is explosive and can blow things away maybe she could blow away Tasha's bullets? Also Scar Transformation is a blitz tier speed boost. Not saying its the main wincon, as then the fight can't be added on profiles, but it should make Shy's job dodging his attacks much easier as Tasha's unlikely to remove his limiter. And Scar Transformation is a bit stronger than his 1.04 Teraton value. Her light manip flashbangs could also stun him in the event he's laying on too much Pressure for Shy to handle and wants to rethink her strategy.

Thats the rundown I've got so far.

Edit: Read through again and picked up on Tasha's battlefield zone homing attack. So Shy won't be able to just aim dodge those attacks and instead will be bombarded by invisible pain manipulation bullets. Which is kinda cooked on her end. Only real defense against this I see is if Teru could vaporize the bullets before they reach her or knock them away with her aura. But she'd have to know to do that given. She lacks the ability to see his mana.
 
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Ok, so scanning over Tasha's profile. It doesn't seem like he has any heat resistance for himself or within Mana Abilities. So Shy's fire attacks should be able to force him to retreat if she radiates it as an aura or burn him pretty bad if it hits him head on. Could also make him back off if he opts to grab her with his Class G LS (well if he's much of a grappler but he seems more like a mid to long range gunslinger based on what I am reading). Granted Shy's not the type to murder someone in cold blood on sight, so I wouldn't see her trying to reduce him to ash or whatever
He could absorb the fire with his gallery glove, less likely since he wouldn't care for it since its not magic, but still possible. Could probably blow it away with his explosive rounds too. And since he'd heal from it and has the defensive suit I don't doubt he'd be inclined to try direct combat.

But, it seems like even getting tagged by his bullets once or twice will put Shy down cause of these effects. As Shy doesn't resist these. Maybe her Purification Type 2 light would cure these? Not the most sure.
Maybe? I know willpower should let her push through to an extent.

Yet on Shy's end she does have Acrobatics, Flight and Analytical Prediction. So the odds of her being hit depend on how good of a shot Tasha is, which I'll let others infer me of.
He's decently good at it since he's already trained under Edea his master for several years and then also trained with Ryuhwan. He fought a swordsman but otherwise, Teru's acrobats could make it hard, especially if her fire can just melt the bullets.

Also Scar Transformation is a blitz tier speed boost. Not saying its the main wincon, as then the fight can't be added on profiles, but it should make Shy's job dodging his attacks much easier as Tasha's unlikely to remove his limiter.
Yeah definitely makes it harder but once she enters it, I feel he'll either go with battle field which homes in or he'll summon Halloween to watch his back or utilize this method of gun control.

I do wanna point out he'd likely recognize her as a young witch and see his own sister so he may hold back until her scar form comes out, could give her some chance to SI him? He's pretty set in his personality and mindset of doing what he must, he just won't kill her. Ultimately though, I think if he starts perceiving her as a threat he'll pull the spas out and that should do her in after a while. Also how much is her danmaku?
 
He could absorb the fire with his gallery glove, less likely since he wouldn't care for it since its not magic, but still possible. Could probably blow it away with his explosive rounds too. And since he'd heal from it and has the defensive suit I don't doubt he'd be inclined to try direct combat.
If he relies on a specific glove to absorb attacks. Then Shy can still use her fire by coating her fists in Flame and just punching him so long as he doesn't catch her blow. Or with moves like Blazing Bonfire which could catch him off guard as he wouldn't expect Shy punching the ground to make fire erupt upwards like that. Or following up flashbangs with fire blasts.

Maybe? I know willpower should let her push through to an extent.
I will say I am leaning towards her purifying light working since Mana appears to be like a spiritual toxin to non resistant people. And Shy's light did cure the people of Tokyo's corruption at the hands of that Miasma of fear. Granted Made in Heart Ring corruption is pretty different and focused on molding minds. Willpower will be good against the pain, but based on the description it appears the effects of mana will stack up with exposure so Shy will have an upper limit of how much Mana she can withstand before passing out or dying. If Shy can purify it then she does have much more leeway in how many hits she can withstand.

He's decently good at it since he's already trained under Edea his master for several years and then also trained with Ryuhwan. He fought a swordsman but otherwise, Teru's acrobats could make it hard, especially if her fire can just melt the bullets.
I think once Shy realizes he's firing invisible ammo at her she'd think to defensively use her fire aura to melt the bullets before they arrive. So despite being able to win pretty fast ideally if he hits her getting that shot will take up most of the battle.

Yeah definitely makes it harder but once she enters it, I feel he'll either go with battle field which homes in or he'll summon Halloween to watch his back or utilize this method of gun control.
If he opts for battle field, if she's already in Scar Transformation by then she could use her Explosion Manip to destroy all the bullets on the way to her. Halloween would make her have a hard time getting close at all I will admit when combined with the fact he could absorb longer range fire attacks.

I do wanna point out he'd likely recognize her as a young witch and see his own sister so he may hold back until her scar form comes out, could give her some chance to SI him? He's pretty set in his personality and mindset of doing what he must, he just won't kill her. Ultimately though, I think if he starts perceiving her as a threat he'll pull the spas out and that should do her in after a while. Also how much is her danmaku?
Her Danmaku is like this. But its not really meant to hurt a ton, rather light stings which give her openings to do something else to her opponent with her speed amp. But she was holding back on Quabala and trying to SI her so she could probably increase their output to make her firefly bubbles actually hurt.
Shy does have Telepathy and can read the emotions of another person's heart so if she does notice he's hesitating or has empathy she's def gonna aim to SI him. And Tasha doesn't seem like a bad person or a psychopath. And she does have Heart Lantern which is basically an Empathy Manip Talk No Jutsu attack which could help her in Social influencing him into giving up or something else. As heart lantern can either be delivered as a punch or a long range fire blast.
 
I will say I am leaning towards her purifying light working since Mana appears to be like a spiritual toxin to non resistant people. And Shy's light did cure the people of Tokyo's corruption at the hands of that Miasma of fear. Granted Made in Heart Ring corruption is pretty different and focused on molding minds. Willpower will be good against the pain, but based on the description it appears the effects of mana will stack up with exposure so Shy will have an upper limit of how much Mana she can withstand before passing out or dying. If Shy can purify it then she does have much more leeway in how many hits she can withstand.
It's actually never implied to be spiritual, and spirits in verse are their distinct thing. It can kinda have a psychic angle since it does harm the mind so I can see her purifying it. It's just that in order to remove it your power needs to be significantly higher than it as we saw they couldn't remove it from Halloween when she was attacked by magic.

I think once Shy realizes he's firing invisible ammo at her she'd think to defensively use her fire aura to melt the bullets before they arrive. So despite being able to win pretty fast ideally if he hits her getting that shot will take up most of the battle.
Yeah definitely would.


If he opts for battle field, if she's already in Scar Transformation by then she could use her Explosion Manip to destroy all the bullets on the way to her. Halloween would make her have a hard time getting close at all I will admit when combined with the fact he could absorb longer range fire attacks.
He could also opt to distract Shy with Halloween, and retreat to snipe from afar. Or even Halloween could attack from afar too. Scenario's different, he had to attack afar because Sabrina was far away initially, but should be something he'd think of, and his beretta was harder to react to for Sabrina as well.

Shy does have Telepathy and can read the emotions of another person's heart so if she does notice he's hesitating or has empathy she's def gonna aim to SI him. And Tasha doesn't seem like a bad person or a psychopath. And she does have Heart Lantern which is basically an Empathy Manip Talk No Jutsu attack which could help her in Social influencing him into giving up or something else. As heart lantern can either be delivered as a punch or a long range fire blast.
He does hesitate to kill, but even with his sister he was fine fighting her for hours and tiring her out and still saying he'd take her by force. Most likely he'll figure Teru's under some witches control or a witch herself and stop her either way. I wouldn't put it past them that Halloween might speak up and say she's tricking him or he believes it himself since witches tend to be evil and tricky in verse sometimes.
Also it says this on page (However, when they are used on living people it functions as a "Flame of Encouragement" that compels the target to fulfil the wishes of their hearts)
So I'm unsure if heart lantern is gonna be useful if anything just detrimental.
 
It's actually never implied to be spiritual, and spirits in verse are their distinct thing. It can kinda have a psychic angle since it does harm the mind so I can see her purifying it. It's just that in order to remove it your power needs to be significantly higher than it as we saw they couldn't remove it from Halloween when she was attacked by magic.
If there is also a energy requirement when it comes to purifying magic, then that should be off the table. Since even in Scar Transformation Shy wouldn't be much stronger
He could also opt to distract Shy with Halloween, and retreat to snipe from afar. Or even Halloween could attack from afar too. Scenario's different, he had to attack afar because Sabrina was far away initially, but should be something he'd think of, and his beretta was harder to react to for Sabrina as well.
Since location isn't mentioned. They would be in the SBA location of Central Park New York. So if Tasha tries retreating like this Shy could slowly close the distance and hop between all the trees to get closer no? Esp when combo'd with the fact she can hover, fly and is used to flipping around. Ruining a clear shot for him. Also does Halloween's travel speed match her combat speed? Cause Shy's flight speed with flame matches hers. So she could just ditch her by flying off if he realizes they've separated and are absolutely planning something. She cou;d also simply not let him retreat in the first place by getting more aggressive. Plus in Scar form she produces afterimages by moving around on top of it being a blitz amp, which could make her a pain to properly hit. Or the most mundane option against Halloween fighting her independently is just blasting her with flame till she faints since she lacks Tasha's absorption tp defend herself against the heat.

I do think sniping Shy though is a viable wincon if she's in base though since its faster than his usual bullets and I don't see her aim dodging / aura blocking if she's being off guarded like that.
He does hesitate to kill, but even with his sister he was fine fighting her for hours and tiring her out and still saying he'd take her by force. Most likely he'll figure Teru's under some witches control or a witch herself and stop her either way. I wouldn't put it past them that Halloween might speak up and say she's tricking him or he believes it himself since witches tend to be evil and tricky in verse sometimes.
Also it says this on page (However, when they are used on living people it functions as a "Flame of Encouragement" that compels the target to fulfil the wishes of their hearts)
So I'm unsure if heart lantern is gonna be useful if anything just detrimental.
Makes sense. So SI will mostly just ensure he won't be willing to use lethal force against her. Which is still worth something when she's not going to want to kill him either. Guess he aint just talking him out of this, and I overlooked he's not dead. So yeah Shy's not even gonna think to try heart lantern on him unless the thing he's wishing for would be a non violent resolution. But that isnt who he is at all.
 
Since location isn't mentioned. They would be in the SBA location of Central Park New York. So if Tasha tries retreating like this Shy could slowly close the distance and hop between all the trees to get closer no? Esp when combo'd with the fact she can hover, fly and is used to flipping around. Ruining a clear shot for him. Also does Halloween's travel speed match her combat speed? Cause Shy's flight speed with flame matches hers. So she could just ditch her by flying off if he realizes they've separated and are absolutely planning something. She cou;d also simply not let him retreat in the first place by getting more aggressive. Plus in Scar form she produces afterimages by moving around on top of it being a blitz amp, which could make her a pain to properly hit. Or the most mundane option against Halloween fighting her independently is just blasting her with flame till she faints since she lacks Tasha's absorption tp defend herself against the heat.
Yeah I guess she could try, I think it'll still be hard with numerous danmaku and homing attacks raining down on her as he retreats. She's also got no senses, so could just lose him in the park until he gets to high ground. Nah they're at most superhuman/subsonic in travel speed. The afterimages get ignored in the homing, they'll know which is the real Teru by the mana flow too. Halloween should outheal the heat damage and just know to keep distance through her sword extension ability which had a massive aoe shockwave.
 
I think it'll still be hard with numerous danmaku and homing attacks raining down on her as he retreats.
That’s pretty fair
She's also got no senses, so could just lose him in the park until he gets to high ground.
Tbf, she still does have her homing attack trick that she learnt from Ai. So she could connect an object like a rock or a twig to her heart to and toss it so it guides her to the direction of where Tasha is.
Nah they're at most superhuman/subsonic in travel speed. The afterimages get ignored in the homing, they'll know which is the real Teru by the mana flow too.
In that case most range advantages they have can get nullified pretty quickly if she decides to just fly. I don’t actually see Tasha being able to split up and create that much distance. She’d just rush him as he tries to back off.
But would detecting by mana flow really work? As psychic energy is still kinda different from conventional magic systems. Or is it a more generic presence / life force sense? Homing point is fair though. Granted Scar Transformation Shy would just destroy the bullets since she’s faster than them and would have time to think about how to handle them.

How long can Tasha sustain the homing battlefield thing? Is it just so long as he has mana or is it cooldown based? Would he start a fight out with it and keep it up for the whole time in character?

Halloween should outheal the heat damage and just know to keep distance through her sword extension ability which had a massive aoe shockwave
Whether she can out heal the heat damage would depend on how fast her regeneration speed is. But heat is a constant form of damage which doesn’t even need to burn you to KO you via heat exhaustion. If her regeneration is fast enough, could Shy not exhaust her mana reserves by forcing her to regenerate constantly? Since while she wouldn’t wanna murder her. If she realizes Halloween can consistently survive her going all out then she may as well.
Her AOE shock wave attacks would be a struggle for Shy. But she can also hit her in turn if she’s within a hundreds of meters range. A more fringe idea being to parry her shockwaves with fire blasts.

So far I’m leaning incon
 
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