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Tales of Verse Pages

Finished Xillia 2 and, well, we have our first Tier 2 Tales game. Origin is 2-B. Ludger and the main cast might be Low 2-C, but I'm not fully sure on that one.
 
I agree on 2-B Origin. The main cast being all Low 2-C, I think only possibly the 4 people able to dodge Chronos attack, Gaius, Ludger, Milla, and Muzet could be Low 2-C, maybe Jude as well with the Maxwell spyrite? The other characters I don't see as very powerful, but they may scale.

Ludger, I think is Low 2-C for sure, since as in the true ending, he can create an alternate dimension by will by remaining in his Chromatus form and waiting until he becomes a catalyst. Also I do believe Kronos may scale to Low 2-C, since the Chromatus is a granted power of Kronos, which has been shown to create and destroy dimensions. Not to mention the cilp I showed before when Milla said Kronos is the most primal of the primordial sprits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQxCPTow-A at 1:06 as stated before.

Also Kronos said he will help assist Origin in the soul reincarnation process, something that Origin has been struggling with since the beginning of Origin's Trial. It seems to imply that Kronos and Origin are taking an equal share of the soul reincarnation process , since Kronos said they will perform the process "together". Bisley is able to defeat Chronos solo with some help from Elle's ability as the key of Kresnik, which later on Ludger is able to defeat Bisley by himself.
 
The main cast should all scale to Low 2-C through Victor who had the full chromatus and was a divergence catalyst himself, also everyone scales above Chronos via being able to beat him in the final battle there. Chronos however shouldn't scale to Origin, as the soul reincarnation process is likely done via hax and not raw power, if he did scale, that would make everyone 2-B. Xillia is almost certainly going to be the most powerful and most haxed Tales game unless some of the previous games can compare, which I doubt.
 
As of now, yes. This will change however, the profile will have to receive a complete rewrite. The revisions will come when I have time (Likely after the semester ends).
 
That's an old comment to reply to, but that's not what the tier is from, it's because of the domain covering planet thing plus using the planet as a vessel, the planet is never used as a source of power in Berseria. Indignation is not being used for scaling. Also Berseria might have a 4-A feat possibly, but that depends on if I'm remembering a certain quote correctly.
 
To clarify, Berseria scaling to Jude and Milla's cameo is most likely an outlier, however, and I am absolutely unsure if I remember this correctly, I believe there may have been a statement about the Earthpulses being inside of Innominat's body, the Earthpulses have stars in them.
 
Yeah, I read Ludgers first key a few years ago, and 8-C was kind of laughably low after seeing the stuff he did in the second game. and Town Level for level 4 chromatus was also pretty weak as well compared to now Low 2-C for level 4 chromatus.

And also I'm happy since if there is a Dante vs Ludger battle, Ludger would win.
 
Also

Where does Velvets Mid Regen come from?

Because the only feat is one from the beginning of the game which not only took too long to be applicable but this form of regen is never showcased again
 
It is that one, the only issue is we don't know the timeframe for sure, but it is implied to be relatively quick as Artorius seemed to be trying to kill her and, well, didn't, so it probably happened quick enough for him to realize that she didn't die from that and take her to the prison.
 
Lol, I'm guessing its because Rieze Maxia is an island, and Elympios is supposed to be technically just the size of Russia? Either way, it's a obvious low ball.
 
Wasn't it explained that the dimensions Ludger went to were alternative universes? So destroying those would be a universe busting feat right?
 
Artorius was not trying to kill her, he needed a Theorion to absorb the mallevolance on the island. So he did that to knock her out. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eDhdEDXx5K4

If he wanted her dead, he would have cut her to pieces, bypassing Mid Regen.

Taking her from the villiage across the sea to an island and tossing her there would absolutely not take less then an hour, bear in mind, she was never shown waking up afterwards.
 
Yeah,it's an alternate universe either way, I just remember reading staff interviews on how the world of Xillia is supposed to take place in just Asia.
 
Well, yes, that's the point behind Low 2-C, there's also the fact that they can become divergence catalysts themselves, which creates a new universe.
 
That's common for Tales games. If I had to rank them, Xillia 2 would be the 3rd darkest Tales Game behind Abyss in 2nd and Berseria in 1st.
 
To me, it seemed like Artorius was genuinely trying to put her out of her misery and only decided to keep her alive for experimentation after she survived the stab, Velvet was the first therion to be captured and Artorius likely didn't fully know how neccesary they are by that point, he probably just wanted to spare Velvet from being a daemon.
 
Also, you don't generally stab someone through the skull to knock them out, he also didn't need to knock her out as he could've just had the malakhim bind her like before or just overpower her himself.
 
Also about Xillia 2, should previous Xillia 1 characters like Maxwell and the Chmeriad, be scaled to Low 2-C in a separate Xillia 2 key as they are catalysts in this game?
 
Most likely, yes, though Xillia 1 Maxwell might get a possibly Low 2-C as he should be somewhat comparable to Chronos, it would make little sense for him to be infinitely weaker than Chronos. Spyrite Maxwell would be solidly Low 2-C as well.
 
It didn't seem like that after the second cutscene

He needed a Theirion to absorb Malevelonce, Velvet was there, ripe for the taking

Artorious putting Velvet out of her Misery when she can help with the plan is very OOC for the calculating dude who's trying to Abandon his emotions.

Artorious, and the rest of the Abbey including Melchior, Awakening Innominat without knowing what it requires, makes, no offense, absolutely no sense.

Their entire plan is summoning Innominat, and studied how to for years, if not decades, them not knowing is completely unlike the Abbey.

Even if we assumed it was true despite it being contradictory, the timeframe for a full sail to the Island is too long as well as her waking up, which, she never was shown doing so

See how many assumptions are here? Too many to reliably say it's applicable

There's also barely any supporting feats for it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cUAr11MsJjE&t=415s

Let alone that wounds much weaker then Mid required healing from Laphicet.

Low Mid or High Low for recovering from a Stab is okay, as is Mid Regen overtime

But it's presumptuous for applicable Mid.
 
Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense if his Spyrite form was more powerful than his alive form as well, and Zestiria is only the second worst Tales game imo. Tales of Symphonia 2 is the worst, or Graces but Graces I like the gameplay, even if the story is worse than Zestiria.
 
Graces really had that nasty difficulty spike though

Everything was fine until the AI started being able to take all your hits without getting stunned or knocked back then you had the boss fights that just seemed unfair
 
Of the Tales games I've played thus far, Berseria is the best with Abyss coming in at a close second, Zestiria is dead last.

Man of culture FRA
 
IIRC it was stated somewhere that Velvet being captured was Artorius testing how the therions work. It makes it seem like him capturing Velvet wasn't integral to the plan. I'm fine with Low-Mid, Mid over time, but in regards to weaker wounds requiring healing, she had also just fought against a person that was literal millions of times above her, so that might have something to do with needing healing.
 
Iceassassin25 said:
Graces really had that nasty difficulty spike though
Everything was fine until the AI started being able to take all your hits without getting stunned or knocked back then you had the boss fights that just seemed unfair
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I can see that, I remember fighting the Fodra Queen, and it took me nearly an hour since she had so many clones and time hax. She was level 100, and your characters were level 70-80. I think the game was mostly fair, if you knew how to block and sidestep, but I did remember having trouble with Kurt. He was pretty hard.
 
Exactly, testing them, not killing them.

Being millions of times above you doesn't negate how good the Regenerationn is, if a 5B jams a 7B with Low Mid in the throat, they will still regenerate quickly

Artorious was also massively casual, otherwise he would have vaporized Velvet

What other applicable Regenerationn feats are there?
 
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