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So I was talking with Glass on Discord and have come to the conclusion that we need a Tales of Verse page similar to our general Final Fantasy page. And as a result all Tales of games will link to that page.
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Tales of Verse Pages
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I agree with this. It makes it way easier to organize the profiles than just having them made with no source.
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Of course we do, however very few of the Tales games actually have profiles, Berseria/Zestiria has some, Abyss has one and Symphonia has two I believe.
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Dragon just made a profile for Yuri, and very soon the rest of Vesperia.
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Ah, he isn't the only one playing through it right now, was planning on doing that myself. Still, the older Tales games have absolutely nothing.
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Still, getting a verse page is better than getting nothing.
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I will also mention, some people did disagree about 5-B based on Indignation for Berseria/Zestiria (Despite Dhaos being actually mentioned in a story cutscene), I'm not exactly sure what the tier for them should be.
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Also, shouldn't Yuri's profile have multiple keys, my redone Berseria profiles are going to have 3 seperate keys, though, not sure if the power growth is as clear cut in Vesperia.
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Wow, seeing this I feel so bad. I stay getting caught up in other things. I definitely was supposed to do this several months ago.
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@Pheonix there's more proof that me and Dragon found that can jsutify tier 5.
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Well for Vesperia, I am pretty sure it's canon here as we have the fact that the only way for Rita to officially get her second Mystic Arte (which I am sure is canon), she literally has to fight Dhaos and she one-shots him with Indignation.
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And there's the fact that the "universe" that Dhaos resides in where the indignation feat occurred has more than one planetary feat, like Mithos taking Derris Kharlan out of orbit after he lost his summon spirits and the eternal sword, Lloyd stopping said plant from going out of orbit, and Gnome being able to control the gravitational pull of both parallel worlds.
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Now I can't say much for the latest two games, but I can vouch for Vesperia at least. Everyone should be 5-B End Game. Either way, we can simply transform the Besteria page into the verse page overall. I can do that easily.
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Having finished Vesperia now, I certainly agree with 5-B for the Vesperia cast, considering everything.
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I will morph the Beseria page into the general verse page then.
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Still waiting for Xillia cast profile :v
Also this is good idea netherless.
Also this is good idea netherless.
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So I did the page update. Next step is to update the pages to link to it, I did a very basic change, if you want to fix anything, feel free to do so,.
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I can help with the titles for each of the games if you want.
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Feel free.
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Big Bang is just a strong attack sadly.
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Would it be considered any type of hax?
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Nope. Just a strong light attack with a lot of AoE.
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I don't know if we can justify attack animations in Tales games.
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I doubt it, probably even if we could it would be considered an outlier, but it is a recurring attack.
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Yeah, I'd agree that Galaxy level anything seems to be a massive oulier (Unless we're talking about Tales of Xillia two with the fracture worlds and whatnot, I'm not sure how Ludger should be rated).
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I know nothing about Xillia, beyond the fact that Jude and Milla appear as the cameos for Berseria, which would likely be a justification for whatever tier the Berseria cast winds up in, if the Xillia cast had profiles that is.
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I do hope they get profiles. I've see all of Xillia 1, and own Xillia 2, but have nowhere near the time necessary to go through and find all their abilities and attempt to determine all their stats.
Also, are we scaling cameo appearances that don't have to do with the direct story?
Also, are we scaling cameo appearances that don't have to do with the direct story?
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Yes, we are, as the Vesperia cast is being scaled to Dhaos' cameo.
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And the indignation spell
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Oh, that's interesting. Alright.
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I'll try bring this up here since the people on the other thread don't care much, I think it would be a good idea (for now) to have the Berseria and Zestiria casts be "At least High 6-A, possibly 5-B", without being too spoilery, the justifications are that two characters use the planet as a domain to dwell in and there's a cutscene of light covering the whole planet, however, we don't know for sure if this covers only the surface or the entire thing, also Indignation as an added note for the 5-B part. This may be subject to change if/when Xillia gets profiles so the cast can scale from the cameo. I just don't want the profiles to stay like they are waiting for hypothetical Xillia profiles that might well never happen.
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It honestly would be better to just outright scale them to 5-B with the indignation spell. That other feat would just be more proof on their tiering
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Also, shouldn't Duke Pantarei have Life Manip because of what he was trying to do at the end of the game?
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Alright, I guess that'd work too.
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The updates for the Berseria cast are done, I will update the Zestiria cast when I have time.
