Sword Art Online CRT: Minor Buffs To The Entire Verse

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

In the previous CRT you felt like Kirito was exaggerating the size of the Milky Way that's because he used the word could which mean he doubts that the size of what he's looking at and is not sure that it's actually the size of the Milky Way

Yes cuz' he was about to get downgraded to 4-B. After finding the universe shaking scans, we decided to keep him 4-A.

Kirito used could in his statement which mean he's not sure or he doubts that it's the size of the Milky Way and how would Kirito know the size of the Milky Way when he's never seen it for himself in real life.

I mean... he literally described the the Underworld as the Milky Way. He can literally describe the Underworld as anything he wanted, but in this case, Kirito compared the Underworld to the Milky Way.

 

[Omega613]

I mean... he literally described the the Underworld as the Milky Way. He can literally describe the Underworld as anything he wanted, but in this case, Kirito compared the Underworld to the Milky Way.

He used could and if you look up the meaning of could in a sentence it means he showed doubt in his statement because he's not sure if it's actually the size of the Milky Way. How the character says his statement is how you should interpret it and he used could which mean he doubts that it's actually as big as the Milky Way

P.S: To be honest I'm having a lot of fun debating this with you.

 

[Nero]

Agree with the rest except Quinella having omniscient. Nigh-Omniscient seems good

 

[Omega613]

Hopefully this is gonna be my last post for this thread as to get this over with so I can make my own CRT.

I agree with Attack Reflection and Shield Creation.

I heavily disagree for Universal Range and the solid 4-B. (this is what my CRT will talk about)

For the immortality I think type 6 would be best since the description for type 6 is switching to a back up body which is what switching accounts should mean.

Though the nigh omniscience is kinda iffy now that I think about it.

I heavily disagree on Absolute zero but Enhanced Ice Manipulation should be good.

 

[Antvasima]

So what are the current conclusions here, and can somebody summarise the arguments so they are easy for me and others to evaluate?

 

[Helestias]

Agree with Everything and nigh omniscient Quinella

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

So what are the current conclusions here, and can somebody summarise the arguments so they are easy for me and others to evaluate?

Everything seems fine except Absolute Zero and Omniscience (Nigh-Omniscience seems fine tho), and Universal Range and Immortality Type 4 still kinda sounds like it needs to be discussed (Some people agree and disagree with this)

 

[Ionliosite]

So what are the current conclusions here, and can somebody summarise the arguments so they are easy for me and others to evaluate?

Everything but Type 4, Absolute Zero and Omniscience is fine (Omniscience was agreed to be only be Nigh).

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then.

Do we need more staff input here?

 

[Ionliosite]

Okay then.

Do we need more staff input here?

Looking back, I think all staff involved in SAO commented already, so I think this is done, the only reason this thread had such contention was mainly derailment questions.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. What has been accepted can probably be applied then.

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

Okay. What has been accepted can probably be applied then.

I’m gonna need Kirito’s page to be unlocked

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

Okay. Tell me here when you are done.

OK. I believe I'm done with the changes.
Edit: I made some minor tweaks: Kings and Queens categories: For Star King and Star Queen. And I also made some tabbers. Nothing harmful.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the help. Should I close this then?

 

[Antvasima]

I checked his intelligence justifications, and they are nowhere near enough to qualify him as nigh-omniscient, only a real world genius.

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

I checked his intelligence justifications, and they are nowhere near enough to qualify him as nigh-omniscient, only a real world genius.

Star King and Star Queen are Nigh-Omniscient since they took over the Admin role from Quinella who basically has all knowledge on the Underworld due to being Admin.

Okay. Thank you for the help. Should I close this then?

I guess this could be closed

 

[Antvasima]

That is still nowhere near enough to qualify for Nigh-Omniscient intelligence going by the actual listed feats.

"At least Genius" is fine though.

 

[Ionliosite]

That is still nowhere near enough to qualify for Nigh-Omniscient intelligence going by the actual listed feats.

Ant, Quinella has all knowledge in the universe due to her admin status. How is that not Nigh-Omniscient?

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

That is still nowhere near enough to qualify for Nigh-Omniscient intelligence going by the actual listed feats.

"At least Genius" is fine though.

But Kirito has literally admin privileges and knows almost everything about the Underworld (The Universe)...

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

That is still nowhere near enough to qualify for Nigh-Omniscient intelligence going by the actual listed feats.

"At least Genius" is fine though.

I know I already made the changes, but may I edit his intelligence section?

 

[Antvasima]

Ant, Quinella has all knowledge in the universe due to her admin status. How is that not Nigh-Omniscient?

Is it just a virtual reality game with A.I.s running around or a true universe?

Also, the problem is that the currently listed feats in Kirito's profile are only of Genius level at best, and I don't see how his comatose human brain in the real world could gain Nigh-Omniscient intelligence from a V.R. simulation.

 

[Antvasima]

I know I already made the changes, but may I edit his intelligence section?

What do you wish to add specifically?

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

What do you wish to add specifically?

Kirito took over the Admin role from Quinella who had knowledge on almost everything about the Underworld (The Universe) due to being Admin

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

Kirito took over the Admin role from Quinella who had knowledge on almost everything about the Underworld (The Universe) due to being Admin

This is why Quinella, Kirito, and Asuna should be Nigh-Omniscient since they basically know almost everything about the Underworld

 

[Antvasima]

Nigh-Omniscience is not simply knowing virtually every detail of a virtual reality game. It is about being able to process virtually all information in existence at any given time.

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

Nigh-Omniscience is not simply knowing virtually every detail of a virtual reality game. It is about being able to process virtually all information in existence at any given time.

Underworld is not a VR Game Antvasima. It's an actual alternate universe.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Nevertheless, nigh-omniscience should be far harder to gain than simply having access to a lot of memorised information, and the actual described intelligence feats do not seem very significant.

 

[Ionliosite]

Okay. Nevertheless, nigh-omniscience should be far harder to gain than simply having access to a lot of memorised information

Ant, can you explain exactly how having all knowledge in the universe isn't Nigh-Omniscience? Saying they only have access to "a lot of memorised information" is completely inaccurate, since the majority of the information they have is something only they know and that goes beyond the knowledge everyone else in the world.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then. It seems very suspicious that a regular human trapped in a coma while connected to a V.R. machine could somehow develop such ridiculously extreme intelligence though.

 

[Ionliosite]

Okay then. It seems very suspicious that a regular human trapped in a coma while connected to a V.R. machine could somehow develop such ridiculously extreme intelligence though.

Becuase he didn't. Quinella did, then Kirito gained Quinella's knowledge, power and abilities when he took her position.

 

[Antvasima]

But his real world body should still be limited by the limitations of his real world brain, and his actual described intelligence feats during this era do not seem very impressive. As such, this does not seem to make sense to me.

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

Okay then. It seems very suspicious that a regular human trapped in a coma while connected to a V.R. machine could somehow develop such ridiculously extreme intelligence though.

Also, don't we use Reality Equalization for Sword Art Online? If this is the case, then Kirito=/=Kazuto.

 

[Ionliosite]

Exactly what StarKing said. This only applies to Kirito in his Star King status, not to Kazuto or base Kirito.

 

[EternalMoment]

So if Kirito gets "Likely Universal" range,should be Kirito gets "Likely 3-B" rating,cuz shook the universe is 3-B right ?

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

So if Kirito gets "Likely Universal" range,should be Kirito gets "Likely 3-B" rating,cuz shook the universe is 3-B right ?

No? There are people with Lower AP and has higher range Such as Accelerator from Toaru. And there are people with Higher AP and lower range such as Ren from Persona 5.

 

[Antvasima]

But his real world body should still be limited by the limitations of his real world brain, and his actual described intelligence feats during this era do not seem very impressive. As such, this does not seem to make sense to me.

Can somebody explain this to me please?

 

[Star_King_Demon_Lord]

Can somebody explain this to me please?

Also, don't we use Reality Equalization for Sword Art Online? If this is the case, then Kirito=/=Kazuto.

Umm... Perhaps this? ^

 

[Smashtwig]

Can somebody explain this to me please?

I think they're trying to say that Kirito in the real world and Kirito as a Star King are two different people with seperate lives, and thus are treated as two different entities in a way.

 

[Zencha9]

But his real world body should still be limited by the limitations of his real world brain, and his actual described intelligence feats during this era do not seem very impressive. As such, this does not seem to make sense to me.

His real world body is a different character
Star king kirito is not normal kirito

The underworld was supposedly a game but we know later in the novel that the underworld is an alternate world not a game world