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Supernatural: Death Downgrade
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It was noted as a reactor, however the exact amount of power in a soul is noted to be 100 suns or supernovas, depending on interpretation.
I know, i was using that to prove that Hax=Raw Power (on most occasions), he couldn't Smite raph with 50k, and he could with 30-40 M.
The only one who gained immunity to smiting due to powers instead of power was Demon Blood Sam.
I know, i was using that to prove that Hax=Raw Power (on most occasions), he couldn't Smite raph with 50k, and he could with 30-40 M.
The only one who gained immunity to smiting due to powers instead of power was Demon Blood Sam.
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I'm going to Try prove it's sheer power from evidence in the show rather than a Hax ability:
Crowley - "Cant Blame A Girl" S7E1 - YouTube - This scene pretty much proves Power=Hax Resistance, also, Sam and Dean have no idea of how to take him down, even though they know of the Colt, which hurt Lucifer, and other vastly powerful weapons. Castiel also became immune to weapons, Angel blades for instance, they also though the same about Death in season 5.
Crowley says in a later scene : "Bind, enslave Death. You having a laugh". "Lucifer Did it". "That's Lucifer". "A spell's a spell". You really believe you can handle that kind of Horsepower. You're delusional". So yeah, it'd take vast power to bind Death.
Death also laughed off Castiel when he said he'd "Take him out first".
Now Death was bound by a spell that the weaker God Castiel could break, so he might not have the exact level of hax=power, however, specific spells work on specific beings better, so take that with a grain of salt, another likely explaination is that it had fulgurite, which is lightning after striking sand, which they refer to as "an act of god crystalised forever", so it likely is just more effective against Death rather than anything else, as god was the guy who bound him before.
Also, as i said Castiel couldn't smite beings stronger than him, and Reapers haven't Reaped beings with Superior power, and have never reaped a non human/non primordial monster character, in fact, when Angels and Demons die, they just go to the empty, overseen by a Cosmic Entity.
It should also be noted that high level Demons are immune to Angel smiting, Alastair, The 4 Princes of Hell, Cain, Lilith , etc, and Archangels are immune to Angels in general, and this is due to sheer power, as shown when Sam smites Lilith, Castiel smites Raphiel, Raphiel makes Crowley immune to smiting, Jack empowering Castiel allows him to Smite Dagon one of the princess of Hell, which he couldn't do before, and more.
Ok, so inconclusion, Death killing God is likely sheer power and not hax, he also said he'd do it at the end of time, so the circumstances are unknown, however, it's safe to say he's God Level, power=Durability in the verse, and Death has been shown and implied to be durable in the past.
Crowley - "Cant Blame A Girl" S7E1 - YouTube - This scene pretty much proves Power=Hax Resistance, also, Sam and Dean have no idea of how to take him down, even though they know of the Colt, which hurt Lucifer, and other vastly powerful weapons. Castiel also became immune to weapons, Angel blades for instance, they also though the same about Death in season 5.
Crowley says in a later scene : "Bind, enslave Death. You having a laugh". "Lucifer Did it". "That's Lucifer". "A spell's a spell". You really believe you can handle that kind of Horsepower. You're delusional". So yeah, it'd take vast power to bind Death.
Death also laughed off Castiel when he said he'd "Take him out first".
Now Death was bound by a spell that the weaker God Castiel could break, so he might not have the exact level of hax=power, however, specific spells work on specific beings better, so take that with a grain of salt, another likely explaination is that it had fulgurite, which is lightning after striking sand, which they refer to as "an act of god crystalised forever", so it likely is just more effective against Death rather than anything else, as god was the guy who bound him before.
Also, as i said Castiel couldn't smite beings stronger than him, and Reapers haven't Reaped beings with Superior power, and have never reaped a non human/non primordial monster character, in fact, when Angels and Demons die, they just go to the empty, overseen by a Cosmic Entity.
It should also be noted that high level Demons are immune to Angel smiting, Alastair, The 4 Princes of Hell, Cain, Lilith , etc, and Archangels are immune to Angels in general, and this is due to sheer power, as shown when Sam smites Lilith, Castiel smites Raphiel, Raphiel makes Crowley immune to smiting, Jack empowering Castiel allows him to Smite Dagon one of the princess of Hell, which he couldn't do before, and more.
Ok, so inconclusion, Death killing God is likely sheer power and not hax, he also said he'd do it at the end of time, so the circumstances are unknown, however, it's safe to say he's God Level, power=Durability in the verse, and Death has been shown and implied to be durable in the past.
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So what will he be Downgraded too?
Does Matt know about this?
Does Matt know about this?
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If you are much weaker than your opponent than smiting / reaping powers won't work on who you are fighting in Supernatural. Is why Lucifer smiting Angels is such a big deal. Angels can't smite each other.
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As for durability, only his own scythe can kill him.
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If Billie is the new Death but with a different personality than the original Death, does that count as the original Death in a new body or a different one with the same role/powers? Idk if Billie has the exact same personality as Death imo (I stopped watching at Season 12 so my knowledge is lacking here).
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