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Superman vs Goku
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Rikimarox2
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Superman has to be >1.35 yottaton due to him having a plus sign.
Really not sure how high into 5-B Goku is, but with Kaioken, he'd have a really good advantage in speed.
Really not sure how high into 5-B Goku is, but with Kaioken, he'd have a really good advantage in speed.
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Gilad_Hyperstar
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Which 5-B Goku is it?
Saiyan Saga Goku is Baseline Planet level with Kaioken, and Namek Saga Goku scales above Saiyan Saga Kaioken times 4 in Base, and scales from that with Kaioken
Namek Saga Goku might be a fairer match since:
Namek Saga Goku >>>>> Ginyu Force >>> Saiyan Saga Kaioken times 4 >> Kaioken times 3 >> Saiyan Saga Vegeta = Baseline 5-B
Saiyan Saga Goku is Baseline Planet level with Kaioken, and Namek Saga Goku scales above Saiyan Saga Kaioken times 4 in Base, and scales from that with Kaioken
Namek Saga Goku might be a fairer match since:
Namek Saga Goku >>>>> Ginyu Force >>> Saiyan Saga Kaioken times 4 >> Kaioken times 3 >> Saiyan Saga Vegeta = Baseline 5-B
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What is the 5-B goku that is more close to Superman lvl? because I want a fair match
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Namek Saga Goku would be the fairest I guess
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then, lets use it
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So, we dont know an exact value? Because if he's just >>>>>> baseline 5-B, then Supes could one shot.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Yeah, Superman may one shot
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The peak 5-B Goku here is just x5 baseline due to him being 90k, while Saiyan Arc Vegeta, who is baseline, is 18k.
Superman instead is x23.65 times baseline based on his calc.
Thus Superman is x4.73 times stronger than Goku, which isn't enough to one-shot, but still significant enough to AP stomp much probably.
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Does Kaio Ken helps?
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Forgot about it. The peak he could reach at that moment is just x4 anyway, so Superman would still be above him. Not to mention that such a state quickly drains his energy, and Supes has enough regen to tank Goku's hits until he gets tired. Superman simply stomps as Goku can't win no matter what he tries.
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Does Goku have wincon like, being a better fighter?
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Second half of Frieza arc Goku is High 5-A fym lol.
Superman has still more versatilty and Class P LS, a thing that even DBS Goku wishes to have.
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360k is just x20 times above Saiyan Arc Vegeta, who's baseline, aka Superman would still be above him as already stated.
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So, what if I use these 4-C versions?
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
Son Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head, starting his great...
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Superman (Earth-Two)
The Golden Age Superman is the original superhero. He was born as Kal-L on Krypton, and later lived on Earth in his identity as Clark Kent, a reporter for the Daily Star, and as Superman, the protector of Metropolis and Earth. He eventually married his co-worker, Lois Lane, and became the Daily...
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Superman is immensely above baseline.So, what if I use these 4-C versions?
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
Son Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head, starting his great...
I think that 4-C Buu Arc Goku can be equal.
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Uhm, okay, I will put these versions then
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done
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Well, I think that Gku can actually outskill, but Superman has an immense LS advantage so I dunno here.
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pretty sure saiyan arc vegeta is like many times above 180 Roshi who is moon level. His power level is 18,000 and we know that the moon is 4 * smaller than the earth. We divide 360,000/180 because roshi is the baseline, not vegeta. We get 2,000 meaning theoritclly he would be able to produce 2000* times more joules than roshi when he produced the moon feat.
You said that Superman is capped at 1400 or something yottotons, thats 14^27 I believe since a normal yottaton is 24 and a thousand would just be adding 3 zeros. The Energy theorticlly produced by Goku is 2,000/4 if we use Earth being destroyed as a baseline for roshi. So 2000/4 equals 500 meaning goku could destroy 500 earths. The energy prodced to destroy the earth is 10^32 power. 5e+34 is the final result, Now I will post 5e 34 /14 ^27 : 5669.08594437 thats the difference in power from 1400 yotton superman to 360,000 pl goku.
You said that Superman is capped at 1400 or something yottotons, thats 14^27 I believe since a normal yottaton is 24 and a thousand would just be adding 3 zeros. The Energy theorticlly produced by Goku is 2,000/4 if we use Earth being destroyed as a baseline for roshi. So 2000/4 equals 500 meaning goku could destroy 500 earths. The energy prodced to destroy the earth is 10^32 power. 5e+34 is the final result, Now I will post 5e 34 /14 ^27 : 5669.08594437 thats the difference in power from 1400 yotton superman to 360,000 pl goku.
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Hey, I changed to their 4-C versions
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Which are incorrect and contradict the profiles. Go to make a CRT to change the values then.
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With nonsense calc which aren't even accepted.
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Hey, I changed to their 4-C versions
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4C Goku is Frieza Saga through Cell saga. The reasoning being is because its been called that Frieza's Death ball destroying planet vegeta was calced at dwarf star level in his first form with a power level of 530,000 Scaled to this.
1,746,397 Yottatons of TNT, or 1.7 Tenatons
High Dwarf Star level First Form Frieza
This falls under 4-C as low four C.
Being Small Star level has been called at making frieza at that range at the bare minimum.
We have a calculation for 1.7 Tenatons for First Form Friezas AP, we know that Final Form Frieza's Power level is 60 Million which I am going to be comparing to 530,000.
The difference from there power levels should be calced and if the multiplier is within the HIGH 4-C zone that makes him High 4-C. The Difference between first form and final form is 113x. I am going to multiply that by 2 since his 100% form exists which has a power level of 120,000,000. Meaning 226x Power level difference and general power difference.
1,746,397 Yottatons of TNT, or 1.7 Tenatons
High Dwarf Star level First Form Frieza
Dragon Ball Super Calc - Frieza Destroys Planet Vegeta - Take Five Forums
Here's a frame by frame of almost the whole feat: http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4859/6unw3kd4l7cue3pzg.jpg http://gfycat.com/UnlawfulMessyFieldspaniel
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This falls under 4-C as low four C.
Being Small Star level has been called at making frieza at that range at the bare minimum.
| Dwarf Star | 16.512 Ninatons to 7.505 Tenatons | 1.651x10^28 to 7.505x10^30 | 6.906x1037 to 3.139x1040 |
We have a calculation for 1.7 Tenatons for First Form Friezas AP, we know that Final Form Frieza's Power level is 60 Million which I am going to be comparing to 530,000.
| High 4-C | Large Star | 760.516 Tenatons to 22.77 Foe | 7.605x1032 to 5.442x1035 | 3.182x10^42 to 2.277x10^45 |
The difference from there power levels should be calced and if the multiplier is within the HIGH 4-C zone that makes him High 4-C. The Difference between first form and final form is 113x. I am going to multiply that by 2 since his 100% form exists which has a power level of 120,000,000. Meaning 226x Power level difference and general power difference.
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yea anyways.... whats stopping goku from outskilling?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Power levels don't increase linearly
They're just a way to tell who is stronger
They're just a way to tell who is stronger
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Yeah otherwise Master Roshi in the Tien Shinhan Arc is only 36x more powerful than Farmer with the Shotgun with Roshi being at 180 and the Farmer at 5. Power Levels aren't linear. Btw if Superman can one-shot and they are at similar speeds, all he has to do is punch Goku once.
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