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Frieza's first offensive action against Goku was spamming Death Beam, IIRC, and he only stopped when he realised Goku was deflecting all of them.Qawsedf234 said:Dunno if spamming death beams is nesscarily in character against an oppoent who would be able to consistently avoid them
That was actually his second, technically third attack, his first was a tail swipe while Goku was talking, but Goku avoided it and kicked him in the face. But I think that was more so Frieza attempting to either test Goku or play with him, or he might have just wanted to get a surprise attack in. After that, Frieza started with one blast that Goku easily deflected, was annoyed, then followed up by spamming them, there were at least several dozens if not hundreds of them. Eventually Goku deflected one into the ground, causing smoke to cover him, a few more entered the smoke but weren't deflected, which was when Frieza stopped, and had a smirk, probably thinking he had already beat Goku. I know there was no need to describe the scene in so much detail, but why not.CryoTheMayo said:Frieza's first offensive action against Goku was spamming Death Beam, IIRC, and he only stopped when he realised Goku was deflecting all of them.Qawsedf234 said:Dunno if spamming death beams is nesscarily in character against an oppoent who would be able to consistently avoid them
I know, I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, I was just describing what actually happened.CryoTheMayo said:Well, that kinda proves that Frieza would spam Death Beams more. Even after Goku deflected and dodged his attacks, he still ended up doing a barrage.
So, even if Superman dodges his first few lasers, Frieza will probably opt to just spam.
Are you voting for Clark?Qawsedf234 said:Superman has very fast acceleration in this universe. Getting to top speed isn't an issue, which is why I don't think a death beam barrage amounts to much unless Frieza closes the distance, where he's more likely to try physical attacks or other ki moves anyways
IIRC DB characters are treated as having far faster combat speed than travel speed, so I don't think Superman having fast acceleration helps him against Frieza's own speed in a speed equalised match.Qawsedf234 said:Superman has very fast acceleration in this universe. Getting to top speed isn't an issue, which is why I don't think a death beam barrage amounts to much unless Frieza closes the distance, where he's more likely to try physical attacks or other ki moves anyways
Uhhh... Speed is Equalized...? Why would Superman have superior Acceleration to Freeza or something? Again, trying to dodge objects thrown at you at your own running speed would mean you'll get hit. It's very, VERY hard to dodge a barrage of attacks like that unless you're plain faster.Qawsedf234 said:Superman has very fast acceleration in this universe. Getting to top speed isn't an issue, which is why I don't think a death beam barrage amounts to much unless Frieza closes the distance, where he's more likely to try physical attacks or other ki moves anyways
I'm not debating the overall outcome, but just came to say, SSJ 3rd Grade disagrees with that assessment. It's at the very least a precedent of not every stat scaling to AP.CryoTheMayo said:Also, it has to be remembered that not only is Frieza an especially durable DB character, but in DB your AP scales all of your other stats. This means Frieza's durability matches his AP, meaning Superman's attacks are 1.5x less effective on a already high-endurance character.
That's a result of the muscular mass slowing down the user. If anything, that supports my claim that a user's power can have 'stat modifiers' dependent on their body and species. This is even shown in Dyspo, with his Light Bullet only modifying his speed and nothing else.PeaceOnTheRise said:I'm not debating the overall outcome, but just came to say, SSJ 3rd Grade disagrees with that assessment. It's at the very least a precedent of not every stat scaling to AP.