Superman (CW) Tier Upgrade

[ByArrow]

• CW Superman stood up as if nothing had happened after Superman's (Donnerverse) attacks
• CW Superman was able to stop Superman's (Donnerverse) attack.
• CW Superman was able to exchange blows while fighting Superman (Donnerverse), who did not restrain himself.
• CW Superman was able to withstand Superman's (Donnerverse) eye laser for a while.
• CW Superman was able to keep up with Superman's (Donnerverse) pace.
• CW Superman managed to get rid of him 2 times while Superman (Donnerverse) was squeezing his throat. The second scene

1. Superman (Donnerverse) wasn't holding back as he was being controlled by lex luther
2. CW Superman tried to talk to him rather than attack. The second scene. The third scene

in short, CW Superman is comparable to Superman (Donnerverse), so he needs to be upgraded to the same level and the same speed as him

 

[Dalesean027]

Should specify thats only up to large mountain+ in regards to the donnerverse superman not the planet+ scaling and that's Massively above anything else prior so it should be a seperate key for crisis

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Didn't follow the verse at that time, but don't we have rules for crossover stuff like this? Does it adhere to them enough to scale?

Crossovers

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[SirAlex09]

Didn't follow the verse at that time, but don't we have rules for crossover stuff like this? Does it adhere to them enough to scale?

Crossovers

A crossover is the placement of two or more characters originating from different continuities/franchises/verses into a single story. Non-canon crossovers do not officially take place within any of the involved continuities. Examples may include Marvel Vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe, or...

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They all take place in the same multiverse

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

This seems fine. This would affect characters like Supergirl and Flash right?

 

[Hellbeast]

Should specify thats only up to large mountain+ in regards to the donnerverse superman not the planet+ scaling and that's Massively above anything else prior so it should be a seperate key for crisis

TBH Isn't Crisis Supes different? There's references to the latter films as well like III and IV iirc (I believe he mentions fighting an alternate version of himself namely) so this could get higher, though I do feel Donner needs some work done regardless

 

[Qawsedf234]

There's references to the latter films as well like III and IV iirc (I believe he mentions fighting an alternate version of himself namely)

From memory Crisis SR Superman states or has evidence that Superman I, II, III and Returns happened. But there's no confirmation that Superman IV was a thing.

So the only thing that would really happen is switching any Superman III power to the Brandon key.

 

[Hellbeast]

From memory Crisis SR Superman states or has evidence that Superman I, II, III and Returns happened. But there's no confirmation that Superman IV was a thing.

So the only thing that would really happen is switching any Superman III power to the Brandon key.

Ah yes, so he might not have IV's feats but that's still notable (though idk if that affects AP all that much)

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Looks good.

 

[Qawsedf234]

though idk if that affects AP all that much)

IV is where his Tier 5 showing comes from.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

I thought IV wasn't canon?

 

[Qawsedf234]

SR original had III and IV be non-canon through director interviews and the like. Crisis adjusted and had Brandon Rooth Superman at least still have Superman III happen to him.

Superman IV has never been an abandoned property, but everything that has used the IP afterwards has ignored its existence.

 

[Dalesean027]

So he's be large moutain level+

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

This would affect characters like Supergirl and Flash right?

Bumping this

 

[Qawsedf234]

large moutain level+

He'd b something like "At most High 7-A+" since he was still being strangled to death with one arm and the entire crossover portrayed Brandon Superman as being stronger than the rest.

 

[Dalesean027]

He'd b something like "At most High 7-A+" since he was still being strangled to death with one arm and the entire crossover portrayed Brandon Superman as being stronger than the rest.

I'm fine with that

 

[Dalesean027]

Bumping this

I'd guess yeah I suppose so?

 

[Dalesean027]

This at least has some precedence since season 4 flash could perform a 7-B feat and since would only become stronger up to season 6 in crisis where they'd (Himself, Supergirl, and CW Superman) be comparable to each other in their stronger states

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'd guess yeah I suppose so?

This at least has some precedence since season 4 flash could perform a 7-B feat and since would only become stronger up to season 6 in crisis where they'd (Himself, Supergirl, and CW Superman) be comparable to each other in their stronger states

This should be brought up in that CW Flash revision, and you should probably start making a list of who scales to this.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Bump, I suppose this is accepted as we have 3 staff

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah it can be applied

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Considering this is in conjunction with the other CW Flash revision, I'd say we just close this and just merge it with that one.

 

[Dalesean027]

Okay I'm all for that