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Superman (2025) Movie Spoiler Discussion Thread

Emirp sumitpo said:
TBF, I'm pretty sure Anti-Matter can be calced, like one gram of Anti-Matter is comparable to a nuclear bomb, and this is a whole river of it.
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It can, but when matter and anti-matter come into contact with eachother, it releases energy. While on paper the feat would be massively impressive, and can be chalked up to each character having their own reasons for surviving it (Supes being Supes, Baby Joey being an alien baby, and Luthorcorp armor being top notch stuff), without any explosion it would just be a resistance.
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
I got it, just how do you plan to make this Super above Cavill's if you're serious?
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Assuming I am serious


Uh, I would definitely use Supes feat of tanking the river at face value, and account for how he was missing 40% of his power when undergoing the dunk. And then if there's any future feat of another hero accomplishing stronger stuff, I would just scale Clark over it due to the story itself labeling him as the strongest.

Though in all honesty, dialing it back for a bit, I could definitely see future films giving him a buff, like a JLA movie showing him sun-dipping.
 
AnAverageUsername said:
Assuming I am serious


Uh, I would definitely use Supes feat of tanking the river at face value, and account for how he was missing 40% of his power when undergoing the dunk. And then if there's any future feat of another hero accomplishing stronger stuff, I would just scale Clark over it due to the story itself labeling him as the strongest.

Though in all honesty, dialing it back for a bit, I could definitely see future films giving him a buff, like a JLA movie showing him sun-dipping.
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Offsite agendas and such (antimatter river isn't much from hax otherwise and doesn't even create any instant reaction or booms like it should)

But the future upscaling should work
 
Dalesean027 said:
Thats why the Green Lantern scaling is kinda meh because like unless we get confirmation that specifc bit when the Lantern hits the scarab is still canon then its kinda iffy to assume that's a valid avenue for scaling when its just the overall plot that's canon and the GL bumping the scarab isn't plot essential
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At best, I could see this being a "possibly" but nothing more really.
 
Phoenks said:
Funny thing. Hulk probably won't ever get a solo movie because his character is still partially owned by Universal.

The actor mentioned that Universal doesn't really play well with Disney and so he doesn't think it'll ever happen. They basically just won't even use their distribution rights nor will they sell it to Disney either. So Disney kinda just has to bare with what they can and try doing Hulk's story through other people's movies.

Heard rumors he'll be a big part of the next spider man, for example.
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I've always felt like that was a major advantage that DC had over Marvel.

Much less legal drama surrounding character rights compared to Marvel.

Although it's there, like the situation with Milestone, specifically Static, who DC doesn't entirely own, which is why Static and other milestone characters don't show too much in DC media nowadays, and why it's unlikely we'll get him in DCU
 
Also that makes me realize something, but a lot of people aren't mentioning this, but these are the last couple of years of Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman being trademarked characters.

In about 9 or 10 years DC will lose them to public domain, so I guess Marvel will hold a massive advantage in that area.

I wonder how that will effect these movies if the DCU will go on as long? And really just DC in general really
 
BEASTHEART8800 said:
I've always felt like that was a major advantage that DC had over Marvel.

Much less legal drama surrounding character rights compared to Marvel.

Although it's there, like the situation with Milestone, specifically Static, who DC doesn't entirely own, which is why Static and other milestone characters don't show too much in DC media nowadays, and why it's unlikely we'll get him in DCU
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tbf Marvel had an abundance of movies and greater variety of characters pre-MCU like Spidey, X-Men, F4, Daredevil, Blade, Punisher, Hulk, etc, so it made sense that they were handled by different production studios. the most I can think of for pre-DCEU DC movies that weren't Batman or Superman related are Watchmen and Green Lantern.

edit: there was also Constantine and Jonah Hex but literally who remembers the latter
 
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Rangoon04 said:
tbf Marvel had an abundance of movies and greater variety of characters pre-MCU like Spidey, X-Men F4, Daredevil, Blade, Punisher, Hulk, etc, so it made sense that they were handled by different production studios. the most I can think of for pre-DCEU DC movies that weren't Batman or Superman related are Watchmen and Green Lantern.
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You make a good point. DC never used that advantage properly.
DC was just obsessed with Batman Batman Batman, that no one else had any real shine, other than Superman (and he even got the short end of the stick) DC did have a bunch of projects planned but many of them got canned.

But yeah, Flash, Green Arrow, Teen Titans, Green Lantern (other than the horrible 2011 one) Wonder Woman, Captain Atom, or Captain Marvel or anyone else got nothing. Barely any games, barley any shows (until arrowverse), etc.



I'd actually argue that Marvel is much better in marketing to mainstream audiences.
 
BEASTHEART8800 said:
Also that makes me realize something, but a lot of people aren't mentioning this, but these are the last couple of years of Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman being trademarked characters.

In about 9 or 10 years DC will lose them to public domain, so I guess Marvel will hold a massive advantage in that area.

I wonder how that will effect these movies if the DCU will go on as long? And really just DC in general really
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The Classic versions of the characters from 1938 which are basically way different people anyways
 
Yeah I forgot to mention that haha, the originals are vastly different. But will this affect any major plans for DC?

Like would randoms people just be able drop Batman in anything?
 
BEASTHEART8800 said:
Yeah I forgot to mention that haha, the originals are vastly different. But will this affect any major plans for DC?
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Not really its literally just for the likeness and shit for the very very first shit for him so it won't fall back on any era's after that or any modern stuff
 
BEASTHEART8800 said:
You make a good point. DC never used that advantage properly.
DC was just obsessed with Batman Batman Batman, that no one else had any real shine, other than Superman (and he even got the short end of the stick) DC did have a bunch of projects planned but many of them got canned.

But yeah, Flash, Green Arrow, Teen Titans, Green Lantern (other than the horrible 2011 one) Wonder Woman, Captain Atom, or Captain Marvel or anyone else got nothing. Barely any games, barley any shows (until arrowverse), etc.



I'd actually argue that Marvel is much better in marketing to mainstream audiences.
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yeah, anything non-Batman/Superman related was relegated to TV animation, which they admittedly did way more consistently than Marvel but unfortunately it doesn't bring anywhere near as much money or fans as box-office releases. and with the DCEU constantly stumbling over itself from the very beginning, it really goes to show how much of a gambit this new movie and universe is
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I mean it clearly draws inspiration from both.
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It's a lot of things. Slobodan Milošević is the main inspiration for Vasil Gurkhos, the President of Boravia. Serbo-Croatian is literally used as the language of Boravia. Lot of his paintings are modelled after Putin
 
Mr._Propeller_Hat said:
Kinda a shame tbh.

Even Cavillman had a tier 6 feat in his first movie, although I'm not counting the pocket universe one as that doesn't scale to physicals
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I think its good that we have a Superman that isn't blowing up planets by opening his eyes. People need to understand that building busting is still very strong, even for a comic book character
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
If things go as planned and we get a proper DCU and not another DCEU, Supes might actually get more feats, especially with a League movie
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That's one of the problems I had with this movie as there were too many characters taking up the screentime of a movie that's specifically meant to be about one person. To be honest, it would've been better if the additional characters like Green Lantern or Hawkgirl was saved up for the next movie
 
I personally didn't mind their additions, if anything I enjoyed it more because we did have them and it made the universe feel more lived in and complete as was proposed with this new universe. Like outside of really super high tier feats (I mean 8-B+ is high already and a good start imo) we got a solid basis for a lot of characters that we are getting expansions on right away.

Want more Guy and Hawkgirl watch Peacemaker in August and Lanterns in early 2026

Want more Superman read the prequel novel and look forward to Supergirl in June 2026

Already deep diving into two big spheres of this universe right away makes it feel more tight and cohesive imo
 
i didnt really get that feeling, its not like the characters were fighting over screen time for me like Iron man 2 with their own mini subplots that act like just setup, its much closer to just generally having a supporting cast that happens to be superheroes (like The Incredibles)
 
l feel like my biggest issue with the movie is that Superman did good for his space parents he never met rather than the Kent’s and only learnt to do good from them in his 30s in a single conversation. He doesn’t know his biological family, he only knows a single line. An inspiring one, but I feel the Kent’s should matter far more. If you want the biological ones to matter more, then I would have them more involved in his life.

Superman and Lex are great though as characters. 6 or 7 out of 10 for me
 
My take was that it was the way that the Kents raised Clark that made him the man he is, and the message from Krypton merely affirmed his way of being in Clark's mind. Learning that Krypton intended for him to be a horrible man then shook his motivations, although his heroism never faded, and the conversation with Pa reaffirmed who he was more than the message ever did.
 
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