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no that got rejectedDidn't we agree that SSJ2 is 20x SSJ?
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no that got rejectedDidn't we agree that SSJ2 is 20x SSJ?
Whatever, if that's the case then the 250000 multiplier is good I suppose.no that got rejected
what are your thoughts on thisWhat would this mean in terms of tiering, and which staff members think what here?
Here is Lord Griffs
And here is DDM's
Tiering stays the same since theyre already tier 2 so finite increases just contribute to the scaling chain, but speed will increase it seems we have 2 staff agrees and a neutralWhat would this mean in terms of tiering, and which staff members think what here?
massively buffs the Mftl+ value by probably some Millions or so with the current stack of multipliers used for the seriesWhat would this mean in terms of tiering, and which staff members think what here?
What would this mean in terms of tiering, and which staff members think what here?
all tiering remains the same this just gives us an idea on how strong characters get past the BoG Goku Baseline.
DDM and Lord Griff agree with SSJG = our accepted multiplier for SSJ2/3 x our accepted multiplier SSJ2/3 due to SSJG Goku of the Battle of Gods arc being superior than Vegito at that time.
@Elizhaa @Maverick_Zero_X @Starter_Pack @SamanPatou @DemonGodMitchAubin @Sir_OvensHere is Lord Griffs
And here is DDM's
@NullflowerblushDidn't we agree that SSJ2 is 20x SSJ?
I do not know.Bump man I just need one person to just agree with this already lol
@Antvasima what are your thoughts on DDM and Lord Griff's agreement?
Don't worry, Ultra Instinct Omen and Mastered will maybe have their own thread in the future after a scaling blog is made but is crossed out completely in the OP. Thanks for your response DDMIt kind of went off rails, I do agree that logically, a gap between a SSG's strength and a SSJ3's strength is greater than that of SSJ3's and base forms. And it was agreed on a previous that even at an absolute weakest, a SSJ2's raw power exceeds and Ultra Super Saiyan, which was stated to be 10x stronger than regular SSJ but has a speed less than the Ascended Grade 2 SSJ. So upon base forms surpassing how strong the SSG was previously, the SSG form is 250,000x stronger at minimum. With SSB basically being identical to a jump from base to SSJ1, thus 12,500,000x.
I am skeptical about applying the stuff like Vegito's SSJ form into the multiplier for UIS or UIM forms however given how fusions can often be quite random on how much stronger it makes them. Yes, the first time Goku went UIS and later UIM, he was stronger than SSJ Vegito, but when they became Gogeta in the Broly movie, even their base form was considered incredibly strong with SSJ form especially being stronger than UIM given he surpassed Broly who is stronger than Jiren.
Edit: I will also need to go to work soon. so won't be able to respond further until I get back at least.
I guess it seems fine, in principle.@Elizhaa @Maverick_Zero_X @Starter_Pack @SamanPatou @DemonGodMitchAubin @Sir_Ovens
What do you think about this?
what do you mean by "in principle"?I guess it seems fine, in principle.
My reasoning for agreeing is based on the OP which uses the already accepted SS3 having a 500× multiplier and base Vegito being superior to SS3 Goku and then SSG being superior to Vegito (pre-god ritual) who should have the capability going SS2 and even SS3 given he is capable of performing Goku and Vegeta's techniques (though Damage3245 prefers not to use this line of reasoning regarding Vegito having hypothetical transformations)I do not know.
@DarkDragonMedeus @LordGriffin1000
Can you explain a bit regarding why you agreed here please?
So if we want to be safe, sure you could remove Vegito but I personally don't have a problem with it.It kind of went off rails, I do agree that logically, a gap between a SSG's strength and a SSJ3's strength is greater than that of SSJ3's and base forms. And it was agreed on a previous that even at an absolute weakest, a SSJ2's raw power exceeds and Ultra Super Saiyan, which was stated to be 10x stronger than regular SSJ but has a speed less than the Ascended Grade 2 SSJ. So upon base forms surpassing how strong the SSG was previously, the SSG form is 250,000x stronger at minimum. With SSB basically being identical to a jump from base to SSJ1, thus 12,500,000x.
I am skeptical about applying the stuff like Vegito's SSJ form into the multiplier for UIS or UIM forms however given how fusions can often be quite random on how much stronger it makes them. Yes, the first time Goku went UIS and later UIM, he was stronger than SSJ Vegito, but when they became Gogeta in the Broly movie, even their base form was considered incredibly strong with SSJ form especially being stronger than UIM given he surpassed Broly who is stronger than Jiren.
It's fine to apply right now since it's been well past 48 hours since the thread started.So we have 3 agrees and two detail explanations going for this so does 48 hours application time go into effect or?
just ask for @SSJRyu1 to update his blog, i already have a thread in the process of updating the speed based on the BoG feat recalc, wait that to finish, trust me, the new multipliers will have heavy contention, getting the simpler one out of the way first is betterOk if anyone is so kind we need a multipliers blog with all the accepted multipliers listed. also this can be closed
I agree though Ryu been inactive for a fat minute I think so we might just need a new onejust ask for @SSJRyu1 to update his blog, i already have a thread in the process of updating the speed based on the BoG feat recalc, wait that to finish, trust me, the new multipliers will have heavy contention, getting the simpler one out of the way first is better
I agree though Ryu been inactive for a fat minute I think so we might just need a new one
Would appreciate it heavily bro lol
so are we at the 48 hour waitMedeus' and Griffin's reasoning is probably fine here.
Passed that, profile application stageso are we at the 48 hour wait
finally after a month ssjg has multiplierPassed that, profile application stage
This isn't going on profiles this will be applied to scaling chains and speed blogs that will be coming out soonI'd like to see what specifically would be added to the profiles, i.e. what the formatting is and who it would affect, before the CRT is applied.
Basically the speed for basically everyone in dbs goes up from the 200ish septilions to quindecilions thanks to another recalc being applied rn in another threadI'd like to see what specifically would be added to the profiles, i.e. what the formatting is and who it would affect, before the CRT is applied.
now you guys are inventing numbers for your speed smhseptilions to sixdecilions
Basically the speed for basically everyone in dbs goes up from the 200ish septilions to sixdecilions thanks to another recalc being applied rn in another thread
i promise i am notnow you guys are inventing numbers for your speed smh
I was just making a joke about the funny words