Super Hax 10-Bs: Mage vs Little Treasure

[Yobo_Blue]

Mage (World of Darkness) vs Little Treasure

10-B forms

Speed Equal

Who wins?

 

[Ionliosite]

Little Treasure via looking normal

 

[Udlmaster]

Do Mages have Disbelief hax?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Can you be more specific?

 

[Udlmaster]

Can you be more specific?

The Mage's have a note on their profile to explain why it's required to explain why.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Ah. Is there any version which would be better for this fight?

 

[Udlmaster]

Ah. Is there any version which would be better for this fight?

All versions of the Mage require you declare if they have their Disbelief hax, which are 1-A Power Null, EE and Reality Warping.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

The note asks for personality, which is what I'm asking about

 

[InfiniteSped]

If the disbelief hax requires the opponent to look unbelievable, like a monster or something (from what I've been told), it shouldn't work here, I guess.

 

[Udlmaster]

The note asks for personality, which is what I'm asking about

Easiest of the two options is "Marauder or not Marauder"

Marauder = Disbelief hax in full affect

Not Marauder = Disbelief hax are basically non-existent

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Marauder

 

[Udlmaster]

Then it's 1-A passive Power null (for the list see the Mage's hax), their 1-A EE, 1-A Madness Hax, 1-A Concept manip, Reality Warping on top of their normal passives like Fate hax and the ability to turn all their hax passive as well.

 

[InfiniteSped]

But what triggers it tho? Would it work against a completely normal looking opponent?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Even if it does, can it cancel out the other 1-A hax used by Little Treasure?

 

[Udlmaster]

But what triggers it tho? Would it work against a completely normal looking opponent?

Yes, unlike Caine's disbelief, the Marauder perceived reality as they choose, they can see it as an Alice in Wonderland type ordeal and if the opponent doesn't fit into that perception, then they're thrown out.

Caine's passive disbelief doesn't work immediately on Normal looking people because Caine perceives reality as it is for the most part, it things are outside what he considers normal then it stops existing.

 

[Udlmaster]

Even if it does, can it cancel out the other 1-A hax used by Little Treasure?

Disbelief hax works on all other Mages, the Technocrats use Marauders to go kill powerful Mages, which would be around tier 3-5 which is 3 Platonic from 3-D Transcendences.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

That doesn't answer the question

 

[InfiniteSped]

Depends on who has the stronger Wan Ei, then.

 

[Udlmaster]

That doesn't answer the question

I've answered the part of the question I can answer, I cannot say if Disbelief hax is greater than LT's Sealing because I don't know.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Alright. Guess we wait for more input

 

[Zaratthustra]

Can the Mage go through Little Treasure passive Heaven-Sealing Aura which makes all attacks/powers self-destruct in its presence?

 

[Udlmaster]

Can the Mage go through Little Treasure passive Heaven-Sealing Aura which makes all attacks/powers self-destruct in its presence?

Depends if the Mage attacks at all, it's currently LT just disappearing from the Mage not believing in them.

 

[Nepuko]

So, how do we know if Mage believes in LT or not in the first place?

 

[Udlmaster]

So, how do we know if Mage believes in LT or not in the first place?

It's why the personality note is important.

 

[Nepuko]

So, how do we know if Mage believes in LT or not in the first place?

It's why the personality note is important.

Aye don't worry from our DMs I at least got that the personality is key to the hax , but that still begs the question : what do we have to do now?

Since the choice for this battle is..."Marauder", we gtta search for a Marauder named Alex or smthing and analyze his personality? o_o

 

[Udlmaster]

There actually is a named Marauder named Alex

Since this is composite, there is a direct example of Marauders causing people to disappear (it's actually where the EE even comes from) so we can reasonably believe that for this case, it does work on normal looking people.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Bump

 

[Udlmaster]

R.I.P Thread

 

[Nepuko]

Well we're kinda waiting for your side here, Udl XD. What Marauder's used, what's his personality, his hax, etc.....

 

[Udlmaster]

Well we're kinda waiting for your side here, Udl XD. What Marauder's used, what's his personality, his hax, etc.....

Marauders are insane, insane and insane.

Their Major passive hax are Existence Erasure and Fate hax.

 

[Nepuko]

So Marauders don't have conditions to active their Disbelief Hax (and that EE/Fate)?

 

[Udlmaster]

So Marauders don't have conditions to active their Disbelief Hax (and that EE/Fate)?

Yeah, they just don't believe in LT. That would be their condition of activating their hax, excuse they're insane.

 

[Nepuko]

Hm. So those guys just don't believe in anything, at all?

 

[Udlmaster]

Hm. So those guys just don't believe in anything, at all?

They "believe" in what they want, what fits their narrative. Anything outside that disappears.

 

[Nepuko]

Ok, I see. And what is their "narrative" here?

 

[Udlmaster]

Ok, I see. And what is their "narrative" here?

That is up to the OP. Which is why the note says that before you make a thread for the Mage you need to give them a personality. Do they see the world as nothing more than a simulation or do they have a hyper-normalised reality where everything is absolutely normal and nothing supernatural exists, is Cthulhu flying around kill people in their reality and so on, this needs to be defined by the OP.

 

[Nepuko]

Hm? So wait, dosen't it mean that if the OP dude wants to fight, say, a gross looking opponent, he'll make a Mage thread about how "gross things don't exist in their reality"? Or if the opponent is a robot, they make a thread about how "nothing mechanical exists in a world", etc?

That's.......O_O


So uh, what happens to this thread then?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Depends on which Wan Ei is stronger, then

 

[Udlmaster]

Hm? So wait, dosen't it mean that if the OP dude wants to fight, say, a gross looking opponent, he'll make a Mage thread about how "gross things don't exist in their reality"? Or if the opponent is a robot, they make a thread about how "nothing mechanical exists in a world", etc?
That's.......O_O


So uh, what happens to this thread then?

Yeah, if the OP says that the Marauder sees everything as dogs, everything will become dogs.

 

[Nepuko]

Ok, so is that very high into 1-A? As in, transcends baseline and stuff?