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Sun wukong vs Overlord Gaia(Digimon)
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Overlord GAIA has Passive Madness Manipulation that drove Digimon wild, and if I'm not wrong Digimon all have 5D Minds.
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Sun wukong has nonexistent physiology type 2 and Transduality type 2 which should negate all mind haxes that are under the jurisdiction of the Dual systems
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Well of course some can bypass this like pennywise
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Except for Smurf 5D Mind Hax laughs at your Transduality and drives him mad anyway. Also, every Digimon can affect NEP Type 2, half the Digimon have NEP and the other half can affect that half, and Overlord GAIA has the power of both groups.
What do you think the part highlighted in Red suggests.
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Okay how does 5D Hax bypass anything in the dual systems? Because as long as it is part of either the negative or positive it will be negated fully.
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And also what madness manipulation type what?
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Because NLF, your Transduality only extends to the Concepts and Ideas it has proven to Transcend, just because you exist outside all 4D Concepts does not mean that you exist beyond the reach of 5D powers.
Its Type 2, but that doesn't matter. As its Passive, it can affect 5D Minds, and it will incapacitate Sun Wukong winning Overlord GAIA the match.
Its Type 2, but that doesn't matter. As its Passive, it can affect 5D Minds, and it will incapacitate Sun Wukong winning Overlord GAIA the match.
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Pretty sure that concepts aren't bound by range and that the only limit is the user's range since concepts aren't bound by any Dimensional structures so I wouldn't call that NLF also JTTW treats mind hax as type 2 madness manipulation.
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That's wrong, as even 5-D Type 3 Concepts exist beyond Type 2 Concepts from a 4-D Verse. Concepts are still very much limited by a Verse's Cosmology and extend only to the Dimensions shown in-verse.
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So between passive madness manipulation that is 5D in nature and Passive 4D+ chaos manipulation that causes all of reality and it's laws and concepts to go upside down.
Just which one would win?
Also it's kind of NLF for a 5D madness hax to just roll over its own dual system.
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Are you sure they can affect NEP2 ? Like, the only digimon that i see being that is Lucemon, since he conceptually embodies the dark area
Are you sure they can affect NEP2 ? Like, the only digimon that i see being that is Lucemon, since he conceptually embodies the dark area
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Wait...how is that type 2 just by embodying the dark area? That's more like abstract existence.
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I think it's type 1
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because the Dark Area is a nonexistant realm
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Nonexistent beyond a conceptual level?
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I believe so.
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.... statements?
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Because it won't be type 2 if it's not nonexistent beyond a conceptual level
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though it doesn't really matter, as Lucemon is WAAAAY higher in the hierarchy than GAIA
Anyway, better call an expert on the matter
@Dragonmasterxyz can digimons affect type 2 nonexistants ?
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Btw, what can Wukung do to beat GAIA ?
Anyway, better call an expert on the matter
@Dragonmasterxyz can digimons affect type 2 nonexistants ?
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Btw, what can Wukung do to beat GAIA ?
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Passive chaos manipulation that disrupts the infinite multitude of positive and negative dualities(concept and laws) that fluctuates countlessly on reality via scaling to Buddha who's prescence passively balances and upholds all things in the universe on a 4D+ scale.
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That doesnt seem very combat applicable?
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It does his chaos manipulation is actually duality manipulation basically manipulation of anything that has the value of 1 and 0
Also he scales far higher above pangu who broke the chaos where these dualities originated from.
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So what does it do to the opponent exactly?
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Basically it could erase their concept or existence , poison them, curse them , nullify their powers, grants wukong immunities to their powers, burn them, freeze them, transmute them , suffocate them, stop them in a single moment in time..... etc.
Basically what I'm trying to say is wukong's chaos manipulation is extremely versatile as an offensive and defensive option passively which would put Archie Sonic's chaos manipulation to shame.
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@Dragonmasterxyz Explain
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Hmmm...
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That's what Wukong's Chaos manipulation(duality manipulation) does passively
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I don't see conceptual manipulation on his page though.
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you may ask @Ricsi-viragosi why
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exactly none of that is said in his profile, so i'm gonna need you to give me proof of that
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Pretty sure GAIA's Concept would be 5-D anyway, what with Digimon themselves pretty much being Higher-Dimensional Concepts. So Wukong's 4D Concept Manip, no matter how long and verbose you describe it, isn't going to do anything.
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NLF considering considering that everything is bound by at least any dual system
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