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Strongest tier 0 currently

Lord_Zeref_Dragneel said:
How can they be equal when there are different levels of infinity?
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Tier 0: Boundless​

Entities who are completely transcendent over any and all forms of hierarchical extension. More specifically: They not only encompass the collection of all possible "qualities" represented by High 1-A+, but also exceed it utterly, existing beyond any and all distinctions between ontologies and any division between objects. They are beyond differentiation, changeless, indivisible, ineffable, self-sufficient and completely unsurpassable. See this page for more information on both this tier and the preceding one.
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I see the tiering system has changed over the past few months. May I ask what tier does an Aleph 2 amount of 0-D points fall under?
 
All Tier 0 are equal now. They're like different variations of the same character existing in different works of fiction, can't even coexist with one another anymore. Current order of things remind me of 2019 when Tier 0 was so rare nobody even talked about it
 
SRE won't be Tier 0, as it is continuously evolving. There is no strongest Tier 0 under the new system.
 
Gasper said:
No. Self Reference-ENGINE won't be tier 0.
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Shell will be High-1A+ due to essentially being the pinnacle of EMR, which is a short jump cut to High-1A+. If you wanted to wank it, you could say that even the tiering system that this site works on is part of the set of all character strings, but that's quite outlandish, don't you think?

The Actual Body, qualifies to be 0, since there is no assertion or proposition that can describe it, describing it's former body as a husk or shell. Once the actual body comes out, the story just immediately ends because of it's apophatic nature, you cannot approach that thing with positive or negative assertion without the book just instantly ending.

I'll also just list the main reason why people think it's not qualifies for 0, and put my own responses

Q: If the ENGINE lacks knowledge of it' creators, it's creations reasonings, and of it's own facet, then how can it be 0.
A: I mean yeah, the SHELL doesn't make 0 because of that, but the The Absolute Nonexistence simply narrated the SHELL into existence so that it would possess idealism, any of the qualities the SHELL had, just dissolve back into it.

Q: If the SHELL undergoes change back into The Absolute Nonexistence, wouldn't that disqualify it from 0?
A: Yeah, if it was actually changing. What happened basically, is that the The Absolute Nonexistence comes out and simply dismantles it's Narrative Manifestation (SHELL), and takes it back into itself, the actual ENGINE, isn't changing. More specifically, the entire narrative of the book, is the True Body's narration, what was being applied change, was the SHELL

Q: Isn't the ENGINE continuously evolving?
A: Not really, as even it's SHELL is ending, beginning, telling, and has already told everything simultaneously. Can't even apply the concept to it

Q: Isn't The Absolute Nonexistence just complete lack of quality, rather than transcending quality
A: Both, that's why the story instantly ends when The Absolute Nonexistence comes out, since it cannot exist within a simply string of characters to describe it

Anyhow, most of these issues come with people confusing the SHELL with The Absolute Nonexistence

if you have any more I'll do my best to respond
 
Grabbing_dragon said:
No it scales no where for it to be tier 0 you also need feats for tier 0
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Statements of being apophatic (In the absolute sense, that is. "Apophasis" just means "negation," and the thing that's relevant here is a very specific application of such negations) are, in-and-of-themselves, Tier 0 feats.
 
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