Street Fighter Revision

[BrainSWord74]

toyed with Nash

Actually Nash managed to beat him in Alpha 2, which was stated again in Nash's SFA ending in SFV:AE. By the end of "A Shadow Falls", Nash had mastered his Illuminati powers and even managed to overpower Bison, but then Bison got yet another amp by the Black Moons (which made him one of the most powerful characters in SF history), and Only after that he one-punched Nash....

The Black Moons are the reason why Illuminati's prophecy (of Nash defeating Bison) didn't come true.

 

[BrainSWord74]

I disagree with Alex scaling to Gill respectfully.

 

[BrainSWord74]

And as for Torrent Necalli, he never fought Unleashed Evil Ryu from SFIV. In his ending, Char Story and cinematic story he was only implied to be stronger than Partial Evil Ryu.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Why not? If Gill was not holding back, then Alex scales. Im waiting for some line that states that Gill WAS holding back.


Anyways, Restricted Evil ryu os the one that landed the last blow on Sagat and defeated M Bison in Sfa3.

Full power Evil ryu (non canon) IS High 7-A because he did fight and defeat Shin akuma in his ending.

 

[BrainSWord74]

There's one important factor - Ryu was looking for Dhalsim's advice in ASF and he wasn't focused, that's why he was vulnerable to Necalli's absorption, so Dhalsim saved him. After finishing his special training (which was spiritual, not physical), Base Ryu stomped Torrent Necalli, meaning Base Ryu >>> Dhalsim = Torrent Necalli.

Evil Ryu defeating Shin Akuma is yet another inconsistent BS moment from the Alpha series. Evil Ryu would be on par with IV Base Akuma at best (Akuma is more intelligent, but Evil Ryu has more power).

This is part of SF lore's concept - not everything is stated on paper, you have to link the dots in order to get the picture, and as an SF expert, I don't see Alex beating Gill. He's like Sakura, he has potential to become one of the strongest characters, but he isn't there yet. Whereas Gill has yet to take a fight seriously.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Thats why im saying full evil ryu is not canon.

And we have no scan that says Gill was taking the fight seriously or not.

 

[Dark649]

I also agree with Brain.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

So, can someone unblock the prrofiles so the changes can be made?

 

[fandom_2horny4u]

That Cammy ending likely implied that she would do so over time, the original jap. version could have different words about it, lastly said ending is not canon as Brain said that only a few parts of the whole Alpha series are canon, which does not include that. We cannot give 7-A or High 7-A out of speculation only at least 7-B, likely far higher unless a feat that scales to them is calced.

speaking of calcs

has anyone calced gill parting the seas?

or the explosion in necros ending (can't remember if it was second impact or 3rd strike)

I also remember someone doing the shadoloo base explosion but I'll have to look for it. Balrog and birde were there and it was town lvl so it'd be a small but good upgrade.

 

[Dark649]

I doubt these will upgrade the characters since Gill feat is likely High 7-A and the calc of the base explosion base explosion was only 8-A. When i was about to revise the characters i recalled that Rose fought and survived a battle with Akuma, she then used all of her Soul Power against Alpha M. Bison but it was not enough to kill him [i don't know if these events were retconned and made not-canon].

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

No, this is mostly a temporary downgrade since Evil Ryu has never possesed Ryu 100% in canon, just in "What-if" scenarios, and mu no ken has not been enough to have a "fairr fight" with Akuma.


But we do know that they WILL fight on par with each other down the line thanks to SF3 and Ryu Final.

I hope that, when they do so, they make Akuma Ryu´s father just so we can have karate star wars.

 

[BrainSWord74]

Rose fought and survived a battle with Akuma, she then used all of her Soul Power against Alpha M. Bison but it was not enough to kill him.

Rose is no match for Akuma, though. Like I said, the Alpha series is full of filler fights where weaker characters beat stronger ones.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

The only 100% canon fight is Ryu being captured and infused with psycho power by bison, then either sakura or Ken intervenes and makes Ryu recover his senses and tap into the dark hadou and one shot alpha 3 Bison.


Thats it.

 

[fandom_2horny4u]

Wasn't sagat there too?

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Well, since Sagat only recalls being beaten on SF1 by Ryu, lets say that making him lose twice to Ryu doesnt make a lot of sense lorewise

 

[Dark649]

One last thing, i'm still not sure about Charlie as he was defeated by Urien, who will be defeated by Chun-Li in Third Strike unless that fight is retconned to be non-canon and i have to remove that key from her profile since he says that Chun-Li is the one that took down Shadoloo when V story showed a different situation.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Yeah, because SF3 is eventually going to be re-written anyways.

 

[BrainSWord74]

Illuminati Nash was defeated by Urien at the start of the story mode before Kolin even unlocked his new powers, and before Nash had mastered them. But there's no shame in that as Urien is a powerhouse (who should be at least 7-B, possibly higher imo). Chun-Li vs. Urien was like Dudley vs. Gill. Gill gave Dudley a car out of respect, Urien gave Chun-Li a girl after being "entertained".

I don't think Chun-Li is City Level, she has never won a fight canonically until "A Shadow Falls", and even then she only defeated an exhausted weakened FANG.

 

[Dark649]

I have done the edits.