Spongebob Squarepants Discussion Thread

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Bruh I wish, but like Almighty said: We found even more feats to take into consideration XD. The more the merrier tho!

I mean we already have grounds for a massive tier change, a months worth of P&A for the whole SB gang, and we’re always going to be finding stuff as SB is a wacky show that is not looking to be ending any time soon….. I say we work on getting a CRT ASAP. I mean we can wrap up what we’ve already brought up and any last minute things but any further findings can be brought up in a future CRT if anything.

Main things we need to talk about is the Strangler feat, intelligence for certain characters, and adding stuff we’ve already talked about.





I don’t think the Strangler thing is valid as Larry appears at the surprise party in the same episode and even after he reveals he’s the Strangler, nobody has immediate fear or transmutes. At best I think it’s actually a weird ability for Larry and could be chalked up as Transformation. Weird ability but the only thing I can think of

I think we should try SB for “Varies from at least Average to Extraordinary Genius possibly Supergenius” via him building an entire space room on a 2 cents budget and it being literally a space vacuum like pocket reality. That’s some like batshit insane intelligence feat XD. Be sure to find the clip for that. As for the others, idk if we have enough evidence, currently, that anyone is above extraordinary genius. Which is funny to me that SB has the best feat of intelligence on the show XD. I’m sure at least Sandy has a Supergenius feat we haven’t found yet. My suggestion is “At least Genius possibly Extraordinary Genius” for Krabs and “At Least Extraordinary Genius” for Sandy and Plankton.

I would add Accelerated Development for Spongebob

Spongebob in Help wanted on Day 1 literally cooked Krabby Patty with ease

He also mastered driving a boat with 1-night session of reading a book

In demolition doofus, he drove a car competently enough to dodge not only the other competitors but also drive away from Miss Puff despite ber being Bloodlusted and having a Monster Truck

Spongebob also was able to make his own business and eclipse the Krusty Krab despite no signs of him having any Manager skills


Same with Patrick

He learned Karate just by Spongebob teaching him in 1 or 2 days

Got a driver's License for some time and is shown alright at driving despite barley being in boating school

Both also did well in the Spongebob Movie driving their car


Patrick also should get Social Influencing ... literally, no one but Squidward and Mr.Krabs objected to Patrick's King status in Rule of Dumb they all agreed to do what Patrick said until Squidward called them out. Hell Mr.Krabs was fooled by his king status in the episode until he refused to pay

I found something for resistance to diseases and corruption for SpongeBob, basically the giant Buzios were infected by parasitic bacteria that made them giant monsters completely angry completely changing their appearance, SpongeBob then solved this by absorbing the germs of all the Buzios making them return to be normal loving Buzios. (SpongeBob with his absorption could separate the germs from the hosts)
SpongeBob had the sum of all the germs absorbed from all 11 Buzios in his entire body and still nothing changed
Other characters were also unaffected by the germs despite being exposed to them.

In one of the episodes he also showed another example of social influence, he made aggressive prisoners towards him to be nice or nice, this already happened in an episode of the series where he treated prisoners so well that they started to be nice to him that includes the strangler and others who even decided to show up for his birthday (despite his fame being so horrible that everyone feared him to the point where even Lobster Larry was literally scared to death of him and from what the strangler episode implied, no one in all of bikini bottom was willing to help out of fear of the criminal, that must include other characters who were famous for causing torture on the show)

Forgot to add guys: Shouldn't one of SpongeBob Enhanced Senses like driving blindfolded should be Instinctive Actions? Other Instinctive Actions is keeping up with Sandy whom can already do chores with her head focusing in another dimension (pretty op Instinctive range by the way due to the fact well, it's literally in another dimension like what more can I say about it?!! XD) even fought off Patrick who can I.A. as well.

Still would be nice if SB has Reactive Evolution, because I am dead sure that he really does have this somewhere. At least Squidward would also have Accelerated Development, given he kept up with SpongeBob in the Employee of the month episode and somehow despite being so ass in cooking, in "Bubble Buddy" SB makes Squidward do the most absurd food requests yet actually manages despite being ass intially XD.

And in IQ I noticed: Spongebob noticing stuff by Nanometers despite already being smoll, cleaning theoretical particles, and most impressively creating different realities surprisingly MANY TIMES with little stuff, would unironically put him at a Supergenius level!! (Mind you SB is not even the smartest there is! There's still Sandy and Plankton who more then likely upscale from this!) Since creating convoluted worlds with little stuff is at this level! Just ask Rick Sánchez!
It's all the more absolutely cursed to realize that in the "Power Hour" crossover had Timmy Turner wishing to see the "Smartest one there is"... Only to have a 4 Inch Sponge out do Jimmy ******* Neutrogena in the IQ Department so far!! XD.

All of this minus the Strangler thing and reactive evolution is fine with me and should be applied.

So what does everyone think about just making the CRT? And my suggestions? Side note whoever makes the CRT (if not Psycho) should be sure to use Psycho’s format he already made on the tiering then add the P&A as it’s own topic.

 

[Pugao_03]

Is everything finished already? Can we get the CRT up now?

Well, all that remains is to check out Bubbles' feat of unraveling the fabric of spacetime (with another version of him wearing it as a shirt) with a rope similar to the one SpongeBob has.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Well, all that remains is to check out Bubbles' feat of unraveling the fabric of spacetime (with another version of him wearing it as a shirt) with a rope similar to the one SpongeBob has.

Bubbles is probably universal for that but idk. Should we try to add that in or can we make the CRT? Tbh I think we should work on the CRT at this point and add anything else later in a separate CRT.

 

[Pugao_03]

I mean we already have grounds for a massive tier change, a months worth of P&A for the whole SB gang, and we’re always going to be finding stuff as SB is a wacky show that is not looking to be ending any time soon….. I say we work on getting a CRT ASAP. I mean we can wrap up what we’ve already brought up and any last minute things but any further findings can be brought up in a future CRT if anything.

Main things we need to talk about is the Strangler feat, intelligence for certain characters, and adding stuff we’ve already talked about.





I don’t think the Strangler thing is valid as Larry appears at the surprise party in the same episode and even after he reveals he’s the Strangler, nobody has immediate fear or transmutes. At best I think it’s actually a weird ability for Larry and could be chalked up as Transformation. Weird ability but the only thing I can think of

I think we should try SB for “Varies from at least Average to Extraordinary Genius possibly Supergenius” via him building an entire space room on a 2 cents budget and it being literally a space vacuum like pocket reality. That’s some like batshit insane intelligence feat XD. Be sure to find the clip for that. As for the others, idk if we have enough evidence, currently, that anyone is above extraordinary genius. Which is funny to me that SB has the best feat of intelligence on the show XD. I’m sure at least Sandy has a Supergenius feat we haven’t found yet. My suggestion is “At least Genius possibly Extraordinary Genius” for Krabs and “At Least Extraordinary the Strangler thing and reactive evolution is fine with me and should be applied.

So what does everyone think about just making the CRT? And my suggestions? Side note whoever makes the CRT (if not Psycho) should be sure to use Psycho’s format he already made on the tiering then add the P&A as it’s own topic.

I think he could have "various to extraordinary genius" intelligence for his exploits, as his normal intelligence out of combat seems to be above average, Although he is not so good in the field of mechanics he has an amazing memory and a good learning ability knowing various things like motor machines and how to drive them in various ways, He is an expert hunter as shown in episodes where he hunts all the jellyfish in the jellyfish field,He's so good at cleaning that he can turn the places he cleans silver, master of disguises, He is quite persuasive,He is a good photographer and at doing tasks that are good for the Krusty Krab, stealthy, good manipulator with the townspeople and is the best cook in Bikini Bottom and others.
There was an episode where he was also shown doing math math super fast when Squidward left him as a cashier and asked him for change, he is creative and can come up with ideas like colorful hamburgers and others
Basically even outside of combat he is usually treated having an intelligence of the previous form, but it varies a lot.

Inside combat though, it's another story as he's consistently treated as good at combat while being very creative.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

I think he could have "various to extraordinary genius" intelligence for his exploits, as his normal intelligence out of combat seems to be above average, Although he is not so good in the field of mechanics he has an amazing memory and a good learning ability knowing various things like motor machines and how to drive them in various ways, He is an expert hunter as shown in episodes where he hunts all the jellyfish in the jellyfish field, master of disguises, He is quite persuasive, stealthy, good manipulator with the townspeople and is the best cook in Bikini Bottom and others.
There was an episode where he was also shown doing math math super fast when Squidward left him as a cashier and asked him for change, he is creative and can come up with ideas like colorful hamburgers and others

Inside combat though, it's another story as he's consistently treated as good at combat while being very creative.

This is fine by me. He’s always been consistently decent in combat with his KA-RA-TAE and creative style of fighting with all of his versatility and abilities.

 

[Pugao_03]

Bubbles is probably universal for that but idk. Should we try to add that in or can we make the CRT? Tbh I think we should work on the CRT at this point and add anything else later in a separate CRT.

I'm not sure, maybe it affects SpongeBob's string, because in that case it and Bubbles seem to be the same.
This would potentially make his Rope Tier 2. (Be aware that a universe in SpongeBob appears to have dimensions like randomland)

 

[Pugao_03]

This is fine by me. He’s always been consistently decent in combat with his KA-RA-TAE and creative style of fighting with all of his versatility and abilities.

Yes, in combat it doesn't seem to vary, since he is treated as good at it, after all he faced and protected Krusty krab (For an eternity of scientist with intellect of extraordinary genius determined never to give up Plankton)

 

[Pugao_03]

Not to mention, of course, he has such a good memory that in an episode where it's the Krusty Siri's birthday, he remembers things from when he was a fetus, showing even being able to speak and reason.
In another he remembers that since he was born he had shoes

So he really has an exceptional memory (in addition to a well above average intelligence, since before he was born he could do things normal people do)

Maybe he should be given photographic memory

 

[Pugao_03]

I mean we already have grounds for a massive tier change, a months worth of P&A for the whole SB gang, and we’re always going to be finding stuff as SB is a wacky show that is not looking to be ending any time soon….. I say we work on getting a CRT ASAP. I mean we can wrap up what we’ve already brought up and any last minute things but any further findings can be brought up in a future CRT if anything.

Main things we need to talk about is the Strangler feat, intelligence for certain characters, and adding stuff we’ve already talked about.





I don’t think the Strangler thing is valid as Larry appears at the surprise party in the same episode and even after he reveals he’s the Strangler, nobody has immediate fear or transmutes. At best I think it’s actually a weird ability for Larry and could be chalked up as Transformation. Weird ability but the only thing I can think of

I think we should try SB for “Varies from at least Average to Extraordinary Genius possibly Supergenius” via him building an entire space room on a 2 cents budget and it being literally a space vacuum like pocket reality. That’s some like batshit insane intelligence feat XD. Be sure to find the clip for that. As for the others, idk if we have enough evidence, currently, that anyone is above extraordinary genius. Which is funny to me that SB has the best feat of intelligence on the show XD. I’m sure at least Sandy has a Supergenius feat we haven’t found yet. My suggestion is “At least Genius possibly Extraordinary Genius” for Krabs and “At Least Extraordinary Genius” for Sandy and Plankton.




All of this minus the Strangler thing and reactive evolution is fine with me and should be applied.

So what does everyone think about just making the CRT? And my suggestions? Side note whoever makes the CRT (if not Psycho) should be sure to use Psycho’s format he already made on the tiering then add the P&A as it’s own topic.

but about the strangler, I believe he lost his ability to put fear in people after he lost to Spongebob, which must have ended his fame, Besides, it seems that SpongeBob's charisma can do things that are a bit absurd, since after the specific episode he started to like SpongeBob and due to having his fame ruined no one feared him anymore.
So much so that at the end of the episode the police admit that SpongeBob has put him in prison.

Maybe it's supernatural charisma for SpongeBob, because I find it hard to believe that Larry was scared to death and the bravest people in town feared the strangler

Otherwise I'm fine with taking it out, as reactive evolution feels more like accelerated development.

 

[Pugao_03]

And Larry would probably gain type 4 immortality for coming back after he died in the episode, I remember him showing something similar in another one, but I'm not sure.
But the party is super weird, the characters knew that SpongeBob was being chased by the strangler including Squidward, but for some reason they went to the party anyway. (it must be some freaky supernatural luck of his, who did things as absurd as a horse reaching the bottom of the sea to take the opponent away as the episode ends)
In certain cases in the episode it seems that his power only works if the person is aware of his fame.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Ok so as a reminder, I can not say this enough: Don't start CRT's without me until I have a say/reminder, no matter what. Hell the last I ever checked on on the Calc Evaluations, there is a Shrek Downgrade happening without prior sayings in it (From what I could understand, he's going back to a measley wall again... Even tho 9-A seemed agreed upon on it's own, and it made me rather cranky as the Ogre I admit. I don't even know where to start with the Shrek Thread is the problem).

I'll start contributing more on SB as that is a more important protocol however. With that being said:

And Larry would probably gain type 4 immortality for coming back after he died in the episode, I remember him showing something similar in another one, but I'm not sure.

Ok yeah, I'll add that then.

But the party is super weird, the characters knew that SpongeBob was being chased by the strangler including Squidward, but for some reason they went to the party anyway. (it must be some freaky supernatural luck of his, who did things as absurd as a horse reaching the bottom of the sea to take the opponent away as the episode ends)
In certain cases in the episode it seems that his power only works if the person is aware of his fame.

At least intially, I too did not know what it falls under as the whole predicament is indeed strange... Until I looked more into the episode again, I will say that the Stranglers abilities can kill to transmute, immediately spread fear on the victims similiarly unatrually, all from the poster alone mind you... Yet SB is not only uneffected, but by just being with Strangler more even unintentionally (which is impressive) did SB surpassed the Strangler, to the point everyone else didn't fear him anymore.

So this could belong in the R.E section with the reason for evolving past Stranglers abilities, but of course if you still don't get the jist, that reminds me to explain further this:

Otherwise I'm fine with taking it out, as reactive evolution feels more like accelerated development.

No it's not only that - The whole thing with R.E. is evolving ones abilities, to bypassing their resistances (See Kratos, Dante, or Chapulín as main examples of this. For Chapulin's case, only Pug knows what I am referring to as we discussed similiar cases):
So Squidward was not fazed by SpongeBob's now established Supernatural Charisma, whom we see SB taming bloodlusted beings instantly and unatrually... Until SB can faze right through Squidward resistances to the point in the same "Christmas Who?" episode had SB eventually get through to Squidward that he became Santa for it (Even Santa appears because of it!), so much so to the point SB can now later tire Squidy with words alone as well, even if Squidy ends up resisting he ends up getting bypassed again by the Sponge. And the Squid is not the only one who got bypassed I'm sure of it.
So RE can still be warranted, and if there are any other examples of SB similiarly bypassing ones abilities/resistances then I'm all antennas about it. That would make SB beyond more OP.

I have something else VERY overlooked and special to discuss, but I'll leave you guys with this for now, in the meantime I need time to establish my thoughts on it.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I'm just gonna put this link here for a shortcut...

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Something else for SB having R.E. is spawning abilities he never had before for the situation.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Okay everyone, so something very powerful needing to discuss is the fact SB can not only neg those whom already regenerate from nothing (Squidy for example) or spiritually, but also: NEG TRANSCENDENTAL THINGS (The idea being that when the string negging happened, we don't see any of them respond like that regardless of transcendence)... Makes it all the more impressive that this came from a Bikini Bottom Mite, just imagine what other much higher beings in the verse can get much later.
And to top it all off, we know that despite this OP quality, the same negging didn't effect SB in slightest! XD.

 

[Pugao_03]

well, the consensus was that he didn't deny it but erased it from existence

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

well, the consensus was that he didn't deny it but erased it from existence

Either way, this definitely shouldn't be overlooked. There are Kamen Riders that can rid Transcendent things. Mind you, SB literally resists the same string I mean he laughed it off, so something much bigger can be going on and not just resisting such XD.

 

[Pugao_03]

I think that in these cases more evidence would be needed for someone to have transduality
We Kamen Rider threads at least put a lot of them together.

1:47 but I found something for attack power I think and resistance to Sound Manipulation, an oyster has a cry cited as being so powerful that it not only breaks the sound barrier but has been heard by all people around the world.
SpongeBob and Patrick took this cry in the face and were fine, plus certain extras survived the oyster cry
Mr Krabs also in this same episode was stealthy enough that when SpongeBob threw his peanut he would steal the pearl, without us even noticing.

Let's also not forget about it for accelerated development, He taught all of his teammates to play a song for an entire stadium that moved everyone there, This in one night, even though neither he nor any of his classmates could play music (since neither they nor Bob had paid attention in Squidward's lessons)

1:35 there's also something else for distortion of reality or toonforce of them changing the surrounding scenery as it happens in the songs

(and during the Goofy goober song SpongeBob's Broadway force made Karen stop helping Plankton to enjoy the song)

but I still think that reactive evolution should turn into accelerated development as said earlier. (Something to highlight for the accelerated development is that during the final song of the first film he could handle the guitar well and shoot his energy, Although he had never used it before during the movie at the end he used it masterfully when he was cornered)

 

[Pugao_03]

With these things in mind, I think we're ready to start the review.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I think that in these cases more evidence would be needed for someone to have transduality
We Kamen Rider threads at least put a lot of them together.

The whole clip is stating that it's some form Transcendence though I understand, and there could be more of such in the comics as outlandish as it sounds (SB is literally Outlandish as it is xD).

1:47 but I found something for attack power I think and resistance to Sound Manipulation, an oyster has a cry cited as being so powerful that it not only breaks the sound barrier but has been heard by all people around the world.
SpongeBob and Patrick took this cry in the face and were fine, plus certain extras survived the oyster cry.

Interesting. Well given what Psycho established then it's safe to say it's good for resistance on it's own already. In fact most of the lower feats could be removed in favor for tier 4-A/3-C to 3-A (much higher), FTL/MFTL+, Multi Stellar LS, etc.

Mr Krabs also in this same episode was stealthy enough that when SpongeBob threw his peanut he would steal the pearl, without us even noticing.

That is one stealthy Krab. Eugene can be Dummy Thicc and he will somehow still make Solid Snack look like a novice, because keep in mind SB and Patrick have some pretty out there Enhanced Senses/Extrasensory Feats on their own XD.

Let's also not forget about it for accelerated development, He taught all of his teammates to play a song for an entire stadium that moved everyone there, This in one night, even though neither he nor any of his classmates could play music (since neither they nor Bob had paid attention in Squidward's lessons)

Have not much else to say but it's Supporting.

1:35 there's also something else for distortion of reality or toonforce of them changing the surrounding scenery as it happens in the songs

Supporting so that's great.

 

[Pugao_03]

Bump

 

[coolgohan09]

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...31629414501/IMG_1491.png?width=915&height=277 Dose this mean that comics are not the same as cartoon

 

[Psychomaster35]

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...31629414501/IMG_1491.png?width=915&height=277 Dose this mean that comics are not the same as cartoon

Pretty sure since there’s no continuity, it doesn’t signify that this isn’t canon. Though, with that scan you uploaded, it can signify Omnipresence since SpongeBob is everywhere at once in many panels.

 

[coolgohan09]

Thats what im trying to say to i guy i aruged with him in discord when i show him proof it canon he says its fallacy

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Pretty sure since there’s no continuity, it doesn’t signify that this isn’t canon. Though, with that scan you uploaded, it can signify Omnipresence since SpongeBob is everywhere at once in many panels.

Isn't this Multilocation? Don't get me wrong, I am fine if its omnipresence as that may upgrade another dood.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Thats what im trying to say to i guy i aruged with him in discord when i show him proof it canon he says its fallacy

Then that person is blind af.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Isn't this Multilocation? Don't get me wrong, I am fine if its omnipresence as that may upgrade another dood.

I had no idea that ability was a thing lmao

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I had no idea that ability was a thing lmao

Same. Pug introduced me to it regarding said other character, but this also grants a degree of omnipresence regardless the last I checked on another XD.

Bruh we didn't even get to the absolute best of SB, yet that Yellow Thing already showcases OMNIPRESENCE.

The source of this meme makes it all the more better as both have Pyrolands in their brains XD.

 

[Pugao_03]

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...31629414501/IMG_1491.png?width=915&height=277 Dose this mean that comics are not the same as cartoon

Do you have the comic where this was quoted?

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Do you have the comic where this was quoted?

Yes, context is very much needed.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...31629414501/IMG_1491.png?width=915&height=277

@coolgohan09 , I am being serious, where did you find this please? Because not only would this provide SB with MFTL+ to Omnipresence in his base as it is, but to those that would scale. Characters have fully acknowledged and have broken the 4th wall entierly, so that should tell you something, and I mean: It's a pretty big deal.

 

[coolgohan09]

Yes, context is very much needed.

Idk i asked him he never found it i pinged him today but never replied should i ping him again

 

[Pugao_03]

Depending on the context it could be several things

@coolgohan09 , I am being serious, where did you find this please? Because not only would this provide SB with MFTL+ to Omnipresence in his base as it is, but to those that would scale. Characters have fully acknowledged and have broken the 4th wall entierly, so that should tell you something, and I mean: It's a pretty big deal.

but it can be a kind of Acasuality type 3

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Idk i asked him he never found it i pinged him today but never replied should i ping him again

Yes.

 

[coolgohan09]

He said he just dosent care really and he might debate later

 

[Pugao_03]

Well, I think we can get at least Acasuality type 3 with this, since SpongeBob exists in all panels at the same time.

 

[Pugao_03]

Isso realmente o tornará muito difícil de matar, lol. (isso se o contexto for que ele pode existir em vários painéis ao mesmo tempo, se não pudesse ser multilocação o que ainda o tornaria muito mais difícil de matar, porque é claro que em dois pontos diferentes haverá dois Bob Esponja que são praticamente o mesmo) Nesse caso, você teria que matar Bob Esponja em vários momentos de tempo e espaço simultaneamente para acabar com ele de vez, já que ele existiria em mais de um lugar simultaneamente ao longo das páginas.
Ainda mais considerando que certos painéis são o passado e o futuroand the character's quote seems to indicate that he could be existing anywhere in the universe

 

[coolgohan09]

Wait but we kinda do need context for this

 

[coolgohan09]

Do we update spongebob ablities thing

 

[Pugao_03]

Wait but we kinda do need context for this

yes, but in this case I'm just using what's in the image, although full context is fine.

 

[coolgohan09]

oKAY good because i dont have the issue we stopped debating also Are u fully done with powers and ablities Because there is some kind of issues