Spider-Man Noir vs Spy (TF2)

[Stalker_Maggot]

Spider-Man Noir vs Spy (TF2)

Rules:

Both at 9-A

Speed equalized

SBA

Spider-Man Noir (Into the Spider-Verse):

Spy: 3

Inconclusive:

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Early Bump

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

How good is the Spider-Sense with this version of spidey?

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

I'm not sure. It should be comparable to other ITSV Characters

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

And how good are their feats?

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

From all I've seen, it allows them to detect people and danger

Example

0:52 https://youtu.be/wZbh-hAXp7c

I don't have more examples with me atm oof

 

[Jinsye]

It's basically just the simple spider-sense

If someone throws a punch from behind, they'll get a warning to get the **** out. Same with stuff like projectiles.

 

[CrackerVolley]

Wait, then what's spy's actual wincon here.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Wait, then what's spy's actual wincon here.

I'm pretty sure Spy can one shot here and the fact his info analysis would let him know about the Spider Sense

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

>info analysis would let him know about the Spider Sense

When has Spy ever demonstrated something that would let him look at someone and deduce powers like precognition?

If the Spider-Sense is that good, Noir takes this comfortably. Webbing can be used to grapple Spy despite the Spy's AP advantage and Spy's main gimmick is hard-countered by the Spider Sense every time he attempts to stealth.

His best bet would be to engage in close combat with his knife, looking at Spider-verse battles, although that would be difficult considering Noir's range with webbing and far greater mobility and acrobatics.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Well, the Spider Sense is inconsistent so there's that. And I just assumed Spy's Info analysis would let him know all of his opponents powers

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Spy's Info analysis would let him know all of his opponents powers

When does this happen in TF2? What lets him do this?

The Spider-sense does consistently work on surprise attacks from the back; it just doesn't rapidly activate in quick H2H combat as 616 Spidey does.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

I said "And I just assumed" because it had info analysis on his profile, which to quote "Information Analysis, or Scanning, is the ability to gain information on a character or object by analyzing them. A basic analysis can grant only rudimentary data on the target, such as their level of strength, speed, durability, or intelligence, while more powerful analyses can grant extensive information on the target's abilities and even personal history."

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Okay, I look at bunch of TF2 items for Spy, and I couldn't find a ability that was info analysis

 

[Moritzva]

What's the AP for Spider-Man?

TF2 is at Vaporizing Humans, or around 300 MJ.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Baseline. That's why I said Spy could win via one shotting

 

[Moritzva]

Alright, voting Spy. Spy is more skilled (He can fight against people stronger than him and can take out entire facilities of trained mercenaries with relative ease, and is called one of the best assassins in the world), has a ton more AP. While he's unlikely to get a Backstab off, all he really needs to do is shoot Spiderman and he'll win.

Spiderman could win if he restrains Spy, but it's far easier to avoid a bunch of globs of web than it is to avoid bullets. Spiderman's senses counter invisiblity. Not to mention, since the web-shooters are partially mechanical, Spy can sap them if needed.

Vote Spy.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

1 for Spy

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Bump

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Mentlegen FRA.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

2 for Spy

 

[LordUrien935]

Spy FRA

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

3 for Spy

 

[ShakeResounding]

The ITSV cast is supposed to be getting upgraded to High 8-C from what I've seen

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Wait what? What's the High 8-C feat?

 

[Huesito88]

The same feat they scale to currently just recalculated.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Okay. So if those upgrades happen, then is now a stomp... oof

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Bump?