Spider-Man Mark IV Upgrade

[Ehnkr2beboh]

Don't worry, it's not another "upgrade him to Low 7-C" thread, I'm just looking for 8-B. So, in All-New Inhumans #6, Spider-Man tanked punches from Collective Man. Collective Man had punched Spidey with the force of 1 Billion people and everyone in China. I calced it here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Ehnkr2beboh/Collective_Man's_punches. He does down scale a bit, as he was seeing quintuple, but it's not enough to warrant this feat being below 8-B.

I don't the calc is messed up, as it's pretty simple. Also, this isn't for base Spidey, it's just for Mark IV. The only characters that scale are Ghost, Red Goblin, Grendel and Superior Ock. I'd like him to be upgraded to 8-B (with AP being explained by scaling to villains), but I'll take "possibly 8-B". I don't think this will be too controversial, so hopefully we can complete it before the forum move.

 

[ShakeResounding]

It's consistent in how he's casually above some of his tougher villains, like the Rhino.

So I agree with the upgrade.

 

[The_Impress]

We'll need to add a Superior Ock key for scaling purposes, and a Collective Man profile.

I have gathered all the scans for the latter, and the former is simple considering it's just Immortality added onto Superior Spider-Man Ock

 

[ShakeResounding]

The key would be added to Doc Ock's page, right? When he has that white-and-green suit?

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

That's when he had a Hydra suit or something, right? I think I read that comic.

 

[The_Impress]

Yeah.

Also, Collective Man (Marvel Comics)

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

Yeah.
Also, Collective Man (Marvel Comics)

Thanks

 

[ShakeResounding]

Alternatively, my progress in the form of a render for Superior Octopus

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

Nice

 

[The_Impress]

Anyways get other knowledgeable members for input

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I agree.

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

What members should I message? I don't want to be a nuisance, so I'd like to only message the ones who specialize in street-low meta characters.

 

[ShakeResounding]

You can take a look at the Knowledgeable Members List for Marvel

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

Oops didn't see that until now. I messaged a couple people.

 

[Fupdumpthegump]

Wait are we even sure that the statement "I'm seeing quintuple" wasn't just a joke.

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

Wait are we even sure that the statement "I'm seeing quintuple" wasn't just a joke.

Also, he can fight with a broken hand and ribs and is able to withstand days of torture with no water, so it's probably not even that bad.

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

an 8-B bump

 

[The_Impress]

I mean if it's a joke it's a pretty random joke with no punchline, even if it isn't literal, he still admits he was considerably weaker than him.

 

[ShakeResounding]

^ This. Spidey may be in the samw ballpark, but he's nowhwere near on par with Collective Man AP-wise

Side question. What abilities would Superior Octopus have aside from Immortality?

 

[The_Impress]

Not really anything else, on a technicality he may have the same powers as base Peter due to being a modified clone of him, no?

 

[Fupdumpthegump]

Oh no he still down scales but I said that because right after he was punched Collective man divided into five different clones.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Not really anything else, on a technicality he may have the same powers as base Peter due to being a modified clone of him, no?

I think so, yeah. Most abilities but no precog, right?

We got the render and everything so we'll just add that key as this CRT completes

 

[ShakeResounding]

I looked into his one and only comic issue. I gathered some stuff here.

Immortality (Types 4 and 6. Can't be killed, as he has an endless amount of clone bodies that transfer his consciousness upon his death)

Sound Manipulation (Can produce sonic blasts from his tentacles that are calibrated for symbiotes)

• Interestingly enough, he says his suit is immune to Skein's powers. I have no idea what her powers are though so idk if this gives resistances of some sort.

All of the powers of Spider-Ma (States that his Proto-Clone body has Spider-Man's powers)

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

speedbump

 

[ShakeResounding]

I guess AKM approved of this on the other thread?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

idk ask him

 

[ShakeResounding]

I was just confused as to why he responded on that one. I don't actually know lol

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Pretty sure he's joking.

 

[Elizhaa]

The tier upgrade is fine. Superior Ock key's and image are fine. The powers here look fine.

 

[Fupdumpthegump]

That sounds more like type 6 immortality.

 

[Elizhaa]

That sounds more like type 6 immortality.

Looking back, I think Immortality can be both Type 4 and 6 Immortality like on Rick Sanchez's case.

 

[Fupdumpthegump]

I might be wrong but I don't think he is resurrecting himself, he's just transferring his consciousness to an already existing body.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Quick question for those who might know.

Is there any reason to scale Superior Octopus scaling to 8-B? Keep in mind I'm not doubting it, I'm just extremly limited in knowledge when it comes to Superior Octopus feats-wise.

 

[The_Impress]

He has way better tech upgrades, and basically knows Mk. 4 inside out due to being oresent there in its development

 

[ShakeResounding]

Yep, just did some digging. He can take hits from Spider-Man and can fight him while he's in the MK IV suit. Not to mention he has technology that can physically tear it to shreds.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Are we applying this? Less than 30 minutes now lol.

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

oh shoot c'mon guys we gotta do this.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Can anyone unlock Spider-Man (Marvel Comics)?

 

[Elizhaa]

I unlocked the page; just tell me when the accepted changes are made.

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

OK I'll go do it. Thanks.

Edit: I'll make it possibly 8-B because he downscales. Is that OK with everyone?