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Speed Equalization Standards
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Weapons and attacks that have an independent speed, like no matter the condition of the user, it keeps the speed constant, shouldn't have its speed equalized. Doesn't mean the target can't outspeeds the attacker's aim.
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I agree with this
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So, any other doubt about speed equalization? Any addition to be made?
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I could be blind because it's been a while since I read this thread, but I had these questions related to speed equalized with immeasurable speed.
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Since immeasurable generally its an state of being (like, a 5D being or so), don't think it can be equalized.
In change, if someone gains immeasurable due some dimension shifting, then you it either qualify as "independent speeds aren't equalized", or you change the battle field.
In change, if someone gains immeasurable due some dimension shifting, then you it either qualify as "independent speeds aren't equalized", or you change the battle field.
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I'm pretty sure the speed of immeasurable itself can be equalized, but the effects that come with it can't. At least, that's how it should be imo.
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Wait so, they just "lol no" passives In a Speed Equalized match?
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Can't say much about the equalization of immeasurable honestly, the rating by itself already have little sense, and is hardly used in the same way in through fiction (at least combat wise).
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I don't know i think it why he ask
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If we assume infinite speed people can move in time stops with speed equal (Yuri is against this though and we have no standard on this, everyone just assumes this is the case) then immeasurables should probably lolnope passives.
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Since characters are reduced to the speed of the slower one, then the benefits of infenite speed are no more (unless of course, it's an infinite speed amp).
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Making it so they can still move in time stops is more as to not restrict their abilities. But you have a point, if you want to be completely consistent then they wouldn’t be able to move inside a time stop.
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Ah so speed equalization goes to the slower character? In the case of immeasurable speed vs finite speed in equalization. This would negate immeasurable speed bypassing passive hax. Which that would answer all my questions lol
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As I mentioned above, independent speeds aren't equalized, and amps still apply.
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Ok, so, another question, what about items that are remotely guided? Such as Hol Horse's Stand or MCU Yondu's arrow? They're faster than them, but they're directly controlled.
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I think those should count as "attacks" and be relative.
I seriously disagree that characters should have their passives and such nulled because of speed equalization, for the same reason we don't restrict the naturally faster character's speed amp from letting them blitz. It's blatantly unfair, and afaik, we don't do that for that exact reason.
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There's a big assumption that started recent on verus battles on the wiki.
Immeasurable speed > passive abilities
The reasoning is like this
Passive hax = instant/Infinite speed
Immeasurable speed is > Infinite speed
Therefore attack before the hax goes off.
if speed equalization goes to the slower character, then this shouldn't be a problem.
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What you said is correct, just not in speed equalized. Is the same reason why an immeasurable speed being can dodge temporal omnipresent attacks, or at least attack before the temporal omnipresent being does.
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Question, I could be blind, but is there a note stating that speed equalization goes to the slowest character anywhere?
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Nope. That’s what this thread and all it’s predecessors are for.
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There isn't one, which is one of the reason why this thread was made. The generally agreed ideas are
- Speed is equalized to the slower character
- Attacks independent of the users speed scale proportionally. A lightning-speed independent attack would retain its speed even if equalized to a lower level. A supersonic character using a gun or bow that's faster than they are will keep its relative greater speed even if moved to a lower level.
- Amps still apply. So Kaio-Ken x4 Goku would still be 4x their equalized speed.
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Question on proportionally equalized just to check if i am understanding it correctly.
A character that is MFTL+ in the Octillions in terms of their attack speed is pitted against a character whose fastest attack speed is only super sonic. (Independent attacks like guns and bullets etc randomly example)
The MFTL+ Character would have their attack speed equalized down to the lower upper limit of the slower character's attack speed? OR would their attack speeds remain unchanged?
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If the MFTL+ character is using a MFTL+ gun that's five times faster than they are, then when equalized down, the gun will remain five times faster than they are. Attacks with a stated and unchanging speed would remain unaffected by equalization. Lightning bolts with stated lightning speed will always be mach 1200, not matter if the character is 12 m/s or 12,000,000,000 m/s.
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I thought Amps only applied in the case that the slower character couldn't blitz the faster one?
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Amps are allowed up to the point where they would reliably win a hard majority with a speed blitz.
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No, it was started by a non-staff member.
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Either way, as far as I know, non-staff are allowed to discuss and comment as long as we're not being disruptive. I don't believe anyone here has been disruptive, looking back at the thread.
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He's fine to comment. Its important to get questions about the new definition out now so it doesn't crop up later.
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If we do a vs in speed equal with a guy that have supersonic speed but immeasurable object (like the low tier umineko with Truth) vs a guy with passive, do the passive will be more quick or the immeasurable object that need to be thought by the supersonic will be more quick ?
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Immeasurable speed > passives without speed equal being involved.
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