Soul King Vs. Kitstar

[Bobsican]

This probably won't end well, but it's worth a try.

Both at peak, speed equalized.

Nyan Cat

God of Clorox

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

SBA means the soul king haxstomps, BUT how does he deal with type 2 nonexistent physiology

 

[Bobsican]

Uh... how exactly he haxstomps?

Also this is a Dream Eater, not a Nobody.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Did you see his massive wall of text??

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

How does he get past Mid-Godly?

 

[Bobsican]

How does he get past Mid-Godly?

With the Jail? Dimensional sealing is a good wincon, respectively.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Doesn't soul king have passive powernull

 

[Bobsican]

IIRC the opponent needs to have a soul for it to be able to work, which isn't the case here.

 

[HST_Master]

That's for reiatsu crush. Not Almighty.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

IIRC the opponent needs to have a soul for it to be able to work, which isn't the case here.

Huh

 

[Bobsican]

Doesn't soul king have passive powernull

Kitstar can't really do damage to SK anyways with the sheer AP gap and being haxless.

I mainly want to see if Kitstar can incon.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Like what's the cat's wincon? It regenerating from the concept of darkness isn't a problem. The Soul King can create and alter concepts.

 

[Bobsican]

Kitstar is a type 2 concept, SK caps at type 3, so he can't really do that here.

As for the wincon, yeah, Kitstar doesn't really have any, as I'm sure just stalling for his canon death is a no.

 

[Schnee_One]

Almighty GG?

 

[Bobsican]

Almighty doesn't offer much here beyond SK being bloodlusted, respectively.

But because of Kitstar's AE, teleportation, intangibility and Mid-Godly, the options that can work are debatable

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Like none of those things help here except it's regen.

It can't bypass The Almighty it has the disadvantage in everything outside of regen keeping it alive.

 

[Bobsican]

What are the potential wincons for SK? As I find the ones I can think of debatable.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

For starters he could just dump that cat into another dimension, almighty gg it, the cat has like no resistance to virtually all his abilities.

 

[Bobsican]

How it's done? Intangibility and teleportation can help here

 

[Schnee_One]

How?!

Literally every Bleach character can hit intangibles

 

[HST_Master]

He has NPI. And it's either just sealing him in a pocket dimension or just dumping him in, Hueco Mundo, SS, Material World, Hell, Dangai, or the many, many Valley of Screams, which are all separate dimensions. There's also Book of The End to insert himself into the Kitstar's Past.

 

[Bobsican]

You need NPI to hit type 2 conceptual abstracts to be able to touch Kitstar, which isn't the case here.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I don't see anything in its profile suggesting it could come back from BFR in another dimension. But as to how it works, he could just will it via thought based reality warping or manually opening a portal, or just make a new dimension right here. Besides that from what I'm reading the cat can't even harm the SK unless I'm missing something here. He's 4-A and the cat is 4-C.

 

[HST_Master]

You need NPI to hit type 2 conceptual abstracts to be able to touch Kitstar, which isn't the case here.

All Bleach Characters have NPI.

 

[Bobsican]

Yes, and NPI has degrees.

One thing is NPI to hit soul stuff and another is to hit abstract stuff.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Which type of abstract?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

That's only for type 1 lol

 

[AstralKing7]

I agree NPI doesn't allow u the ability to touch all forms and types of intangibility

 

[Schnee_One]

It allows you to hit the on Kit has

 

[Bobsican]

That's only for type 1 lol

Well, it seems Kitstar is indeed a type 1 abstract because of how Dream Eaters work in verse.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Well make a crt.

 

[Bobsican]

It allows you to hit the on Kit has

Not really, unless you want to argue that there's type 2 conceptual type 1 abstracts that such NPI has shown to be able to work on.

It's either that or straight up type 2 concept manip, neither of which are here.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

are you confusing abstract existence with conceptual manipulation?

 

[Bobsican]

Not really.

Simply put, Kitstar is a type 1 abstract, with such abstract essence being of type 2 conceptual nature.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Like I said go make a crt for type 1 dream eaters and heartless.

 

[Bobsican]

Sure, wait a bit then.

 

[Crimson7867]

X-Axis might work if not then Balance, Visionary or anything that doesn't require you to directly hit your opponent should work on him imo

 

[Bobsican]

Here's the CRT

 

[Bobsican]

Okay, after some discussion in a Discord server, it seems type 2 AE is the accurate one here for a bunch of reasons.

I guess SK just incaps in some way.

Can this be closed?

Or would this be any different with speed unequal?