Sonic vs Gunvolt

[Robo432343]

Sonic the Hedgehog (Modern)

Sonic the Hedgehog (ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグ, Sonikku za Hejjihoggu) is Sega's mascot and the eponymous protagonist of the Sonic the Hedgehog video game series. He is an anthropomorphic hedgehog born with the ability to run faster than at the speed of sound and beyond, hence his name, and possesses...

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Gunvolt

Captured by Sumeragi and experimented on as a test subject for Project Gunvolt, Gunvolt spent his early life being tortured to accept the Azure Striker Septima. Despite being the perfect match for the power, he was rescued from the emperor company's clutches by Asimov and the publicly called...

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Speed Equal

 

[FeebasExE]

Gunvolt stomps

 

[Robo432343]

Gunvolt stomps

smurf vs non smurf

 

[SeijiSetto]

prevasion gg (kidding)

you haven't specified a key, or is it 2-A vs 2-A?

 

[Robo432343]

prevasion gg (kidding)

you haven't specified a key, or is it 2-A vs 2-A?

i thought SBA meant 2-A vs 2-A

 

[SeijiSetto]

i thought SBA meant 2-A vs 2-A

it does, but for the sake of clarification
so hyper sonic (strongest 2-A key) vs astral order GV

hyper >>> super (hyper is incomparably superior to super in literally every aspect) >>> early modern super = 2-A

tl;dr of why is that early modern super is 2-A, while base sonic was like 4-C. Sonic got stronger to 4-A and so his super form is that same amount stronger (like sextillions), and then hyper is way above that

 

[Robo432343]

it does, but for the sake of clarification
so hyper sonic (strongest 2-A key) vs astral order GV

hyper >>> super (hyper is incomparably superior to super in literally every aspect) >>> early modern super = 2-A

tl;dr of why is that early modern super is 2-A, while base sonic was like 4-C. Sonic got stronger to 4-A and so his super form is that same amount stronger (like sextillions), and then hyper is way above that

How high into 2-A is hyper sonic

 

[SeijiSetto]

How high into 2-A is hyper sonic

i literally just gave you the scaling chain lol, immensely high and he will one-tap GV

 

[FeebasExE]

i literally just gave you the scaling chain lol, immensely high and he will one-tap GV

Prevasion says no

 

[SeijiSetto]

Prevasion says no

i'm aware of prevasion, i mean simply comparing his AP to GV's dura, sonic will eviscerate him by muscle-twitching

 

[Robo432343]

i literally just gave you the scaling chain lol, immensely high and he will one-tap GV

no like as in the 2-A infinity^ thing

 

[SeijiSetto]

no like as in the 2-A infinity^ thing

dunno how any of that works.
hyper sonic is just massively, massively above baseline 2-A, that's all i can tell you. ask someone like @LaserPrecision or @Gilad_Hyperstar since they're more knowledgeable.

 

[Robo432343]

bump

 

[Smashtwig]

You guys can't do this to me

 

[Migue79]

You guys can't do this to me

 

[Bobsican]

 

[DMUA]

i'm aware of prevasion, i mean simply comparing his AP to GV's dura, sonic will eviscerate him by muscle-twitching

This will be difficult when he just prevades (something can dodge every timeline collapsing directly on top of Gunvolt to remove him from existence, and even when Sonic gets around that (he won't) the Muse gives him Mid Godly regeneration which Sonic doesn't cover

And also just something something Gunvolt using said ability to collapse every single timeline into Sonic to remove his existence, I hate Gunvolt 3 and the devastating toll it has taken on Gunvolt vs Cole MacGrath

 

[Smashtwig]

dmua they’re coming after us now

i was hoping for a incon truce



(I’ll quickly add that the move he is talking about also delete GV’s past, and every past possible that led him to taking that attack, and he Prevades it- and he also Prevades having his soul, time, and space “killed” on a conceptual level- and honestly I should just link the list). Won’t make an argument left but just know I have… some confidence that I can argue for GV surviving, so just wait up and don’t bumrush me plz- I got this I’ll go through the ENTIRE P&A section plus some other arguments that I’ve heard

 

[Bobsican]

I sure miss back when I could even throw Gunvolt at Pikachu

 

[SeijiSetto]

And also just something something Gunvolt using said ability to collapse every single timeline into Sonic to remove his existence, I hate Gunvolt 3 and the devastating toll it has taken on Gunvolt vs Cole MacGrath

funny electro-adept go hee hoo

 

[DMUA]

dmua they’re coming after us now

i was hoping for a incon truce

I think the matchup just shouldn't happen because it's way past the hax-unfun singularity where it's just going down a list of things that immediately kill the person on the other side of the field, which 99.999842% of the time ends in a stomp

 

[Migue79]

That is the consequence of the creators of GV being petty over who the fanbase thinks is stronger.

 

[Smashtwig]

Alright so I may have stumbled across something new that should be approved in a new CRT for GVs side, it shouldn't take super long to get it over with, so im gonna have to ask y’all hang tight because this can actually affect the match pretty significantly

 

[ShakeResounding]

I think the matchup just shouldn't happen because it's way past the hax-unfun singularity where it's just going down a list of things that immediately kill the person on the other side of the field, which 99.999842% of the time ends in a stomp

Seems like this is actually just a stomp @Smashtwig, and another addition for Gunvolt is just overkill at that rate. I guess this should just be closed. Also, Mid-Godly, Sonic has no answer to that when combined with Gunvolt's abilities/resistances.

 

[Bobsican]

GV has no real way past the invulnerability currently AFAIK

 

[Smashtwig]

GV has no real way past the invulnerability currently AFAIK

Honestly how DOES Invul work? Either way GV may possibly get 4D Invul Negation soon which was what I was talking about earlier

Seems like this is actually just a stomp @Smashtwig, and another addition for Gunvolt is just overkill at that rate. I guess this should just be closed. Also, Mid-Godly, Sonic has no answer to that when combined with Gunvolt's abilities/resistances.

I was actually gonna argue for a speed UNEQUALIZED match giving Sonic Immeasurable stuff since GV can straight up Prevade having his past destroyed. Thought it might change something so that Sonic won't be able to be hit be so easily until he gets cocky like Sonic typically would- might push things to a Incon

 

[Robo432343]

bro but prevasion can be bypassed

 

[FeebasExE]

Meh, reading the profile it really does not leave room for bypassing........

 

[Bobsican]

Honestly how DOES Invul work? Either way GV may possibly get 4D Invul Negation soon which was what I was talking about earlier

Reality Warping, apparently.

 

[Smashtwig]

bro but prevasion can be bypassed

That depends on the person using it. You're correct normally but uh

Gunvolt 3 GV just says no in general

 

[DMUA]

Reality Warping, apparently.

Wank, given it's supposed to be a durability thing and this is shown to be the case when the most powerful things Sonic has fought could in fact actually harm him when he was super sonic and thus doesn't qualify for the power Invulnerability despite the descriptions of being invulnerable, but

 

[Smashtwig]

Don’t worry GV gon get Possible Invulnerable Neg anyways at some point for whatever the Invulnerablity actually is

still think that Immeasurable speed vs surviving history being erased is a debatable topic, but also Mid-G regen so rip

 

[Phsccarvalho]

big Defi

 

[Xmark12]

GV to Sonic as the blue rat's pitifully trying everything he possibly can to injure him, only to have infinite timelines collapse on him a second later:

 

[DMUA]

The funniest part is that I've since realized Sonic does resist every ability involved with that, but I don't think we upscale resistances to 4D just because a weaker key resists an ability

And the conceptual mind manipulation in particular I find... A bit confusing in terms of justification and I dunno if it would help against the Muse to begin with

 

[Smashtwig]

GV to Sonic as the blue rat's pitifully trying everything he possibly can to injure him, only to have infinite timelines collapse on him a second later:

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO INSTIGATE

IT'S JUST ME VS THE ENTIRE SQUAD

 

[Xmark12]

It's not instigating if it's true

 

[Bobsican]

The funniest part is that I've since realized Sonic does resist every ability involved with that, but I don't think we upscale resistances to 4D just because a weaker key resists an ability

And the conceptual mind manipulation in particular I find... A bit confusing in terms of justification and I dunno if it would help against the Muse to begin with

Yeah, we don't.

IDK about the mind manip.

 

[Smashtwig]

It's not instigating if it's true

bro is the embodiment of conflict

 

[Robo432343]

The funniest part is that I've since realized Sonic does resist every ability involved with that, but I don't think we upscale resistances to 4D just because a weaker key resists an ability

idk but sonic will maybe get 4D stuff

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