Sonic vs Goku (GRACE)

[Stalker_Maggot]

Sonic the Hedgehog (Classic) vs Goku (Dragonball Evolution)

Both are Low 6-B

Speed equalized

The Sonic people like:

The Goku no one likes:

Incon:

 

[Akreious]

AP

Goku: 1.1506E+22 Joules

Smolnic: 1.3732998E+22 Joules

So, yeah. This might be a stomp. Sonic is about 1.2x stronger and Goku literally has no advantage here except range and maybe Martial Arts. That's it. Sonic has Hax advantage (He has flipping Time Stop for craps sake), AP/Durability Advantage, Stamina advantage(?), and Versatility advantage.

I cannot forsee a win scenario for Goku right now. Not one. Maybe if he's extremely OOC and keeps a ranged for 100% of the battle but Sonic has many many distance closers and haxes to compensate.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Lol the best Sonic game vs the worst Dragon Ball Movie.

Best Blu Boi FRA.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Sonic via quality and FRA

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Chubby Sonic FRA

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

If this was Great Ape Goku he would probably one shot.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

How strong is that thing?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

He would be over 8.3x stronger than Sonic because Great Ape increases your power ten fold.

 

[Huesito88]

They still kept that multiplier for Evolution Goku?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Idk, that's why I said probably.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Does Goku have a wincon?

 

[Theuser789]

Sonic FRA

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Does Goku have a wincon?

His only wincon is Great Ape and that's not being used.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sonic FRA.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

6 for Sonic

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

I only used this version of Goku, because he's the most hated one, so I doubt a salty debate will happen here

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Sonic still stomps End of Dragon Ball Goku regardless

 

[SecretSynergy]

I love Goku to death but DBE Goku has even less hax than regular Goku, so it's a gg.

Sonic FRA

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Grace

 

[Js250476]

someone do Evolution Goku vs Movie Sonic if they end up the same tier

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

I wanted to do that lmao

 

[Akreious]

So can anyone actually name a win con. for Goku here? If not, this is a stomp match.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

I mean, Classic Sonic doesn't use haxs as his first move, so Goku could try to kill him, and the gap is barely noticeable in a AP and Durability, so Goku is going to be harming Sonic,

 

[Akreious]

I mean, Classic Sonic doesn't use haxs as his first move, so Goku could try to kill him, and the gap is barely noticeable in a AP and Durability, so Goku is going to be harming Sonic,

Which isn't a win condition. If a win condition relies on the opponent being stupid, it's not a great or even really notable win condition

 

[DragonEmperor23]

>Someone says a match is a stomp

>Everyone starting voting for the stomper FRA

Is this a joke lol?

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

This might be a stomp.

Clearly this says decisive win condition, FRA For Reasons Above.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Grace ended but people are saying this is a stomp so

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I mean, the first person to comment said this was a stomp.

edit: And I mean that as in, the first comment was "Goku doesn't have a wincon"

 

[Akreious]

But... I've been saying Goku doesn't have a wincon. He literally can't win >_<

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Flashbacks to Mario vs Goku intensify

 

[Theuser789]

What's up with videogame icons and they stomping Goku?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Videogame characters are usually haxxed. Goku's not. Simple.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

So the FRAs come from the first post (which wasn't even a vote) and in that same post the guy says that Goku lacks a winco...

Seems legit

 

[Jasonsith]

AP
Goku: 1.1506E+22 Joules

Smolnic: 1.3732998E+22 Joules

So, yeah. This might be a stomp. Sonic is about 1.2x stronger and Goku literally has no advantage here except range and maybe Martial Arts. That's it. Sonic has Hax advantage (He has flipping Time Stop for craps sake), AP/Durability Advantage, Stamina advantage(?), and Versatility advantage.

I cannot forsee a win scenario for Goku right now. Not one. Maybe if he's extremely OOC and keeps a ranged for 100% of the battle but Sonic has many many distance closers and haxes to compensate.

So the question is:

Are

1. "flipping" time stop
2. stamina
3. versatility

of Sonic good enough to stomp over

1. range and
2. skill

of Goku so hard there is NO winning conditions given the AP advantage of < 1.2 times?

Say, how many time stops and "flipping" can Sonic use during a battle?

 

[Theuser789]

I would say Sonic has better skill than Evolution Goku

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

That's a bit iffy, Sonic is essentially self taught for the most part.

 

[Theuser789]

So? Sonic fought Knuckles who is a martial arts master, plus I am refering to Evolution Goku

 

[DragonEmperor23]

He said flipping time stop, the flipping is not how the time stop is activated, he's using the word to show his exasperation. If he said "Sonic has freaking time stop", that wouldn't mean he has time stop plus freaking.

 

[Jasonsith]

OHNO

Then Sonic leaves up with fewer advantages.

And seriously, how many advantages are required to call a composite stomp?

Or is Sonic's time stop already a hax stomp?

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Time Break slows Sonic down too so using Time Break as a justification for a win is not really that valid.