Sonic General Discussion Thread 4 (And Knuckles)

[ShakeResounding]

@Shadow Yeah, there could be some cool 5-A matches.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

It appears the 5-A would be Super forms = Perfect Dark Gaia > Imperfect Dark Gaia = 7.2 yottatons.

So not far into the tier.

 

[ShakeResounding]

To be fair, Dark Gaia did that by waking up from his million-year nap or however long it was.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Maybe in the tens of yottatons, but not hundreds or ninatons.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Hundreds is a stretch and Ninatons is a definite no.

But it's not too far-fatched to assume that, if Dark Gaia did that by waking up, they could be around 2x-3x stronger.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Better use Shadow against guys that are hundreds of yottatons or in the ninatons.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Still, I think them being in the low tens of Yottatons isn't too bad of an assumption.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Yeah that sounds about right.

 

[Executor_N0]

I love the fact that in IDW Sonic is said that since the Chaos Emeralds have a chaotic power then the power output varies because of the situation AND usage 0v0

I mean, It's the first time that they say this so directly 0v0

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

There you go, variable tier for super forms.

 

[BlastX]

That only applies to IDW though, unless Sega mandated that to be in

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Game super forms already have variable tiers.

 

[BlastX]

Yeah, i'm well aware, just saying that this explanation only applies to IDW

While the game canon is not explained (at least I don't remember it being explained)

 

[ShakeResounding]

Even so, it still shows that variable power isn't out of the norm.

 

[MYHERO]

Woah Sonic's profile has gotten meatier

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

The Super Sonic key literally used to be just "Energy Projection, True Flight."

No kidding, the profiles have come a long way.

 

[MYHERO]

Jesus. You know I looked at other websites for Archie Sonic like Spacebattles and such, and it's so abysmal. Either it's downplay, or when they do acknowledge Sonic is 2-A they only use his AP and aren't aware of any of the haxes Sonic has. Saying that Sonic isn't that haxxed because he doesn't use it on his stronger foes.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I wouldn't take Spacebattles seriously. They downplay Warhammer there as well.

 

[ShakeResounding]

@HERO Yeah, the end result of the Archie Sonic CRT was way longer than I anticipated.

Resistance to EE is listed twice lol

 

[MYHERO]

That must mean his resistance is twice as powerful

 

[ShakeResounding]

That's one way of looking at it

 

[MYHERO]

@HERO Yeah, the end result of the Archie Sonic CRT was way longer than I anticipated.

Tbh I've barely checked the revisions so when I looked at the profile today that actually surprised me.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Check out the thread, a lot changed

 

[MYHERO]

Seeing Sonic having an abstract existence only for it to be type 3 got me the biggest blue balls of the year so far.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Still a cool thing for Sonic to have abstract existence at all.

Chaos Force beings and Illumina have type 1 so it's still a thing in the verse.

 

[MYHERO]

There is no way for Sonic to have a higher Acasualty is there?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Nope, he's not a higher-dimensional being.

 

[MYHERO]

So he will always lose to Madoka...

Even when he becomes a high 2-A.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

No, if he was High 2-A he stomps.

But let's not act like High 2-A is set in stone.

 

[MYHERO]

Huh? He's still physically 3-D though.

 

[Wokistan]

Well Oryx has type 5 acausality in a 3D key. It's not impossible, but very unlikely to get without the verse being real blatant about it.

His second key is also probably not 3D but that's another matter.

 

[MYHERO]

????? 4D super Sonic?

 

[Wokistan]

The his was referring to Oryx. This comment was in response to someone insinuating that acausality is capped for 3Ds.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

He's physically 3D but his resistances are 2-A.

If he were High 2-A then they would be High 2-A.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Some 3Ds can have higher levels of acausality than type 1, but usually it's reserved for 4D or higher.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Sometimes I wish there was a plot with Sonic having to delve in and become one with the Chaos Force, similar to Chaos Knuckles.

That would've been an amazing and hax-filled dream come true.

 

[MYHERO]

He's physically 3D but his resistances are 2-A.

If he were High 2-A then they would be High 2-A.

****.

 

[ShakeResounding]

I remember right before Archie Sonic's Base form was downgraded from 4-A, Game Super Sonic actually just reached 4-A. As expected, a vs match happened between them.

Game Super Sonic was getting his ass kicked even before all the hax. It was pretty funny to see.

 

[MYHERO]

Tbh I still believe 4-B Sonic seem like a big stretch, but I don't know the series well enough to challenge it.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Base Archie Sonic still blitzes Game Super Sonic though lol.