Sonic 2-B Scaling Continued

[DMB_1]

Perfect Dark Gaia isn't much stronger than its base from.

 

[BlastX]

There's also Mother Wisp.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Actually, there are multiple showings of 5-A; Dark Gaia, Eclipse Cannon with all 7 Emeralds, Devil Doom and mutliple of Eggman's weapons that had all 7 Chaos Emeralds. Perfect Chaos' best feat is High 6-A but he's 5-A scaling from Dark Gaia.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

It's a nit but Devil Doom doesn't have a 5-A feat. He's 5-A from scaling to Super Shadow.

 

[JJSliderman]

I guess there's a 5-B thing in Sonic beating Ultimate Emerl who Gerald stated could destroy the planet.

Maybe.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

He has a 5-B statement though, and Eclipse Cannon with 5 Chaos Emeralds did have a 6-B calc as well as "Piercing the planets" statement which is Tier 6. Note that piercing the stars is a mistranslation. And actually, Emerl's statement of destroying the World didn't explicitly mean the GBE of Earth but simply all life on Earth. So High 6-A was the safer bet.

 

[JJSliderman]

My entire life is a lie.

 

[DMB_1]

Besides Eggman has needed the Chaos Emeralds to achieve much lower feats.

If anything, you could argue that the actual inconsistency would be him being able to pull a 4-A machine out of nowhere.

 

[Theuser789]

Dark Gaia did his 5-A feat when he was so weak he couldn't handle his own wheight:https://youtu.be/5Bdtv9PfPvs ( 29:44)

The Eclpse Cannon never fired with all seven emeralds, and it's stated to pierce stars.

In Advance one and two Eggman created machines that can fight Super Sonic without emeralds, so Eggman's tech scales to the Emeralds

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Just going to say, not the right place to discuss that. This is about 2-B.

 

[Theuser789]

You are right

 

[ShakeResounding]

What Shadow said.

2-B first. 5-B is for another time.

 

[DMB_1]

Just going to say, not the right place to discuss that. This is about 2-B.

At this point, it might as well be redundant because 2-B depends on the Illumina thread's outcome.

 

[JJSliderman]

Starting to think I'm gonna be an old man by the time an outcome is reached.

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

Beings with type 1 immortality will die of old age before this concludes

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

But to be honest they one's in support don't have a solid argument anymore and they cannot oppose our reasonings

 

[The_Smashor]

Characters who are beyond the concept of time will die of old age before this concludes

 

[BlastX]

Can we stop saying "argument's over, they can't oppose our reasonings, GG".

It got stale fast.

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

@Ultimate Flare

It's just an implication that they do need to provide more proof to their claim and disprove ours as I really want this thread to be concluded as I'm quite busy with certain things and I don't want this site to have an inaccuracy as well as Sonic to have an inaccuracy.I'm sorry if it seems rushing and narcissistic.I'm also not saying we won the argument either as it's just there has to be more activity on the ones for the upgrade to actually continue the debate as the one's who oppose the downgrade have given their reasons and they haven't debunked them.

 

[BlastX]

@Oblivion Lightning

It's ok, i'm sick of this too and want it to end to move on to the other upgrades.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I honestly agree with Cal. This wiki has become less about a unified community seeking accuracy and more a group of isolated and extremely toxic cliques that only seek to hype up their characters to oblivion and beyond and nobody seems to care because of how everyone is self centered and stonewalling mixed with human wave tactics are the only way threads happen as opposed to actual civil and logical debate.

Ever since Google+ got shutdown the people from there started migrating here and boy does it show.

Call me rude, antagonist, biased, a hater, discredit my entire existence because I don't believe a talking cblue cartoon rat is Multiversal scaling from vague as fick terms from a non canon party game. Which of course is 100% canon because of some guys tweet nearly 20 years after the fact.

Consistency? Outliers? Super Sonic frequently struggles with planetary or less than planetary threats? Who cares. All that matters is higher numbers so I can feel smug in this stupid dick measuring competition.

 

[Genericstickman]

I'm trying to think of something to reply to that

 

[The_Smashor]

Super Sonic frequently struggles with planetary or less than planetary threats?

Alright hold up.

Your point has gotten across, but what the hell is this?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The wiki hasn't got downhill that much; I mean, it was better when some people like Everlasting were more active as well as Reppuzan, DarkAnine among other people. But we also did get rid of the Discord group. DMC and God of War are good examples that did somehow get the fan base satisfied rather than legit accuracy, but so far, it looks the Sonic Thread is just going in circles. And while post people agree with 2-B Sonic, the staff are still agreeing with Illumina being downgraded to Low 2-C.

 

[BlastX]

...I mean, that's what you choose to focus on?

I was replying to the smashor.

 

[BlastX]

What happened to the Discord group?

 

[The_Smashor]

@Ultimate

I feel like most everything else Matt said in that comment was true, at least to an extent.

But what the hell was that

Power-Scaling exists for a reason.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

This thread is a sad pile of shit tbh.

Literally everything about it is misserable.

 

[BlastX]

No kidding, it brings out the worst of people.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

@UltimateFlare, it was a controversial event that happened last year, but we had to ban 10 or more users which 4 of them were staff seconds before they got banned and a few others were former staff members. Rather not mention any names, but some of them were literally harassing people and deliberately trying to dismantle the wiki. But they also literally did other legit crimes such as public exposing some people's private information, cyberbullying a few staff members trying to get them to commit a dreaded S word. And one of them even had the nerve to upload Child Pornography using some of our user names just to make us look bad when they're the real scum bags in the room.

 

[Kepekley23]

This thread is a sad pile of shit tbh.

Literally everything about it is misserable.

Agreed that the thread seems to be going south and probably needs to be closed up until people can at least chill.

I fully agree with Matt's sentiment in the sense that the community definitely appears to be getting more toxic and salty, but I don't think our accuracy is going down.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

While i hard disagree with Matt, i also agree this needs to be closed, at least for a while.

We need to chill.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I will close this thread for the time being. Wait till the Illumina statistics get updated and then we can discuss the new scaling.