Son of Dracula VS. Son of Sparta

[ZephyrosOmega]

Kratos VS. Alucard. Speed is Equalized, strongest keys, blah blah blah.

Kratos:

Alucard:

Inconclusive:

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Bump

This might be good

 

[ShivaShakti]

Kratos is a 2-C at his strongest key so he can definitely oneshot.

Alucard is gonna need to win this with Hax

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Kratos is a 2-C at his strongest key so he can definitely oneshot.
Alucard is gonna need to win this with Hax

We're using Low 2-C keys.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Change the "Both are at Strongest Keys" to "Both are at Low 2-C"

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Change the "Both are at Strongest Keys" to "Both are at Low 2-C"

Kratos' strnogest key has a Low 2-C version. It's not hard to assume that both are Low 2-C.

 

[ShivaShakti]

At least 3-A, likely Low 2-C to 2-C

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Yeah

So Low 2-C

 

[ShivaShakti]

You said strongest key. Assuming strongest, his strongest is 2-C

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

his strongest key is At least 3-A, likely Low 2-C to 2-C

we're using the Low 2-C version

 

[ShivaShakti]

Then state that in the post. His strongest is 2-C, so if you're saying he's at his strongest, it will be assumed that he is 2-C

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

No, we're using his strongest KEY. That still has a Low 2-C key within it.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Are you guys seriously discussing about that ?

Anyway, what is Kratos' resistance against Soul Hax ? And how far into Low 2-C is he ?

 

[Ogbunabali]

I think the important question is how does Kratos bypass mid-godly. I don't see anything in his profile that does.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Alucard's Regen is Mid tho

 

[Ogbunabali]

Ah, I thought we scaled him from Dracula. Well it comes down to AP and soul manip resistance then.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

IMO this goes pretty much the same way as Alucard VS. Dante did, Kratos has way higher AP but dies hard to hax

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Way higher AP because ? Is Zeus Baseline Low 2-C ?

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Primordials < Titans < Most gods < Kratos < Zeus < Fear Zeus < Power of Home Kratos, or something like that?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

And the Primordials are Baseline, right ?

So that gives to Kratos a AP advantage but by that much, since Alucard is comparable to Richter, who's stronger than any other Belmont who came before him, and Leon, for example, is already above baseline scalling from Time Reaper, who can be defeated by Death who was defeated by Leon

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

there's more, but that's the simplified version. I'd argue the castlevania scaling chain is pretty decent considering that the belmonts get stronger as they go.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

That's not true tho

Dracula gets stronger, but we don't know how much, Trevor was already strong enough to fight him and Christopher defeated him alone

After that, we don't know if Dracula's upgrades over time are big enough to cover the difference between him and Christopher, so every Belmont after him are comparable at least, and likely stronger but we can't say for sure

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

bump

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

The full scaling chain for Castlevania should be something like:

Dark Lord Soma >>> Soma (DoS) > Menace > Dario fused with Aguni > Dimitri/Dario > Soma (AoS) > Chaos > Dracula (1999) >= Julius = Alucard (1999) => Alucard (SoTN) > True Form Dracula (SoTN) > Dracula (SoTN) > Galamoth >>>>> Shaft (Feat above Baseline) > Richter being controlled by Shaft > Richter Belmont > Dracula (RoB) > Leon Belmont > Dracula (LoM) >>> Death (LoM) > Time Reaper => Low 2-C.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

So he can probably match Kratos.

 

[Panicrain]

Zephyros for the God of War scaling chain are the primordials the weakest on that chain? I know nothing about either series so I'm just curious since in most mythos primordials tend to be the strongest. Also is the a place on here that has a scaling chain for all the different verses because i see people reference it and would like to look myself.

As far as voting how does kratos have any hax he could use to compete with Alucard? How potent is alucards hax?

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Zephyros for the God of War scaling chain are the primordials the weakest on that chain? I know nothing about either series so I'm just curious since in most mythos primordials tend to be the strongest. Also is the a place on here that has a scaling chain for all the different verses because i see people reference it and would like to look myself.
As far as voting how does kratos have any hax he could use to compete with Alucard? How potent is alucards hax?

The primordials are baseline, yes.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

The full scaling chain for Castlevania should be something like:

Dark Lord Soma >>> Soma (DoS) > Menace > Dario fused with Aguni > Dimitri/Dario > Soma (AoS) > Chaos > Dracula (1999) >= Julius = Alucard (1999) => Alucard (SoTN) > True Form Dracula (SoTN) > Dracula (SoTN) > Galamoth >>>>> Shaft (Feat above Baseline) > Richter being controlled by Shaft > Richter Belmont > Dracula (RoB) > Leon Belmont > Dracula (LoM) >>> Death (LoM) > Time Reaper => Low 2-C.

We don't know how much a ">" means since all the fights in Castlevania are close ones which means that their AP is comparable any way, unlike DMC or Dragon Ball, for example, which have multiple stomps and one shots in the scalling which makes the characters much more powerful than baseline

Castlevania isn't that far into Low 2-C

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

It's decently far honestly, and there are fodderizings in castlevania too. Saying otherwise shows a pretty blatant lack of understanding of the verse.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Give me examples then

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Are you guys seriously discussing about that ?
Anyway, what is Kratos' resistance against Soul Hax ? And how far into Low 2-C is he ?

It depends on which version of kratos is being used. If it's power of hope kratos, he's indestructible by in-game standards and regenerated from having his neck snapped by fear Zeus instantly bypassing the underworld entirely because he possesses Hades' soul. Also his resistance is pretty damn good, considering he pulled his own soul back into his body when Hades was ripping it out with his claws.