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AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
Goku. Remember, on his First fight, Vegeta used the Great Ape Transformation just to defeat Goku.

During Vegeta's Second battle with Goku, Vegeta has the Majin Power Up. And even then, he was on equal terms with Goku's SSJ2 state. However, not only did Goku have his SSJ3 form, but he also only lost cause of Vegeta's sneak attack. Now, since DBS may end with Goku beating Jiren in his U.I Power Up, Goku will EASILY take this match.
This match is only for SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta
 
ZERO7772 said:
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
Goku. Remember, on his First fight, Vegeta used the Great Ape Transformation just to defeat Goku.

During Vegeta's Second battle with Goku, Vegeta has the Majin Power Up. And even then, he was on equal terms with Goku's SSJ2 state. However, not only did Goku have his SSJ3 form, but he also only lost cause of Vegeta's sneak attack. Now, since DBS may end with Goku beating Jiren in his U.I Power Up, Goku will EASILY take this match.
This match is only for SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta
Doesn't matter. Goku would still win with the Kaio-Ken.
 
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
TheC2 said:
Guys, the match is over til after Vegeta and Goku get their upgrades.
And? Even if you include U.I Goku and Vegeta's new "Form", Goku would still slaughter.
How do you know that? Because there's not set multiplier nor have we seen the limits of Vegeta's new form. From what little we've seen, he's keeping pace with Goku (who has put all his strength behind SSBKK) and it's both of them together that's pressuring Jiren.

So, how about we wait and see instead of making assumptions.
 
I mean let's be real here, once Goku unleash UI true power he will be leagues above Vegeta even with his new found power because he will face Jiren at his max power and may even defeat him

As of right now it seems Vegeta new power only put on the same level as KKx20 or maybe little higher
 
ZERO7772 said:
I mean let's be real here, once Goku unleash UI true power he will be leagues above Vegeta even with his new found power because he will face Jiren at his max power and may even defeat him
As of right now it seems Vegeta new power only put on the same level as KKx20 or maybe little higher
God, I wonder how Vegeta fans must feel now.

Toriyama: Vegeta's getting a new form....

Vegeta Fans: YAY!

Toriyama: BUUUUTTT...It's only going to be as strong as Goku's SSBKKx20 Power Up. I just want you guys to feel good until I end the Series with Goku being the strongest Man in all the Universes. Who knows? I may buff him up to be even mightier than Zeno/the Grand Priest at the End of the Series. Ohohoho...

Vegeta Fans: **** you! :mad:

Toriyama: Cute. Now, shut your faces while I make Vegeta even more Sparkily/Blue. HAZZAH! Oh, and i'll give him Blue U.I Eyes just to piss you guys off more.

Vegeta Fans: :(

Toriyama: Aren't I just the worst? OHOHOHO!
 
>Toriyama thought that up.

Doubt it. He likely didn't even have plans for Vegeta to get a new form. Kinda like how he didn't plan on Super Saiyan Rage, etiher.
 
It mostly Toei's idea TBH beside even in the original series he was always second to Goku, at least Z gave him peace by accepting he will never surpass Goku but in Super he's at it again
 
Goku via IT (clowned copy-Vegeta), solar flare, his destructo beam tactics, his ki landmine tactics, spirit ball, his "predictions" or precog, his tactics are >>>> in general whereas Vegeta goes "muh pride, muh Bulma" and just hits harder.
 
Jobbo said:
Zenkaibattery1 said:
Vegeta SSJB>Goku SSJB ever since the Goku black arc. I don't think Goku has closed the gap but it is possible because of the zenkais he has gotten from Jire
Goku put out more power than Vegeta & Trunks' combined blast that very arc. And the promotional material for the TOP arc lists Goku as the strongest member of the U7 team with Freeza being his equal.
Where is said promotional material? I've looked all over and I can't find it.
 
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