Son Goku vs Thantos DuBaer

[The_real_cal_howard]

A battle of opposites. The favored shounen hero vs an unknown Disney villain. 2 rounds. For round 1, speed is equalized, Thantos starts in his humanoid form, and Goku starts out in base. Both can transform to The Darkness and SSBX10KK. Round 2, both start at peak, and speed is Unequalized.




Thantos : 7

Goku : 0

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump?

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

hmm if goku can one-shot him before he becomes the darkness due to being country only but Thantos has hax which can on-shot goku all the way but i wanna ask is his omnipresence 3D or 4D?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

3-D. One thing about Thantos is that if Goku touches him, he's getting Soul absorbed.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i would give it to thantos because in darkness he is intagable and goku's kamehameha wave will bypass him so its a hax stomp sort of

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Well, if Goku stays away, he might have a chance. And mayne, just maybe, a universal spirit bomb might work too.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Well, if Goku stays away, he might have a chance. And mayne, just maybe, a universal spirit bomb might work too.

but the problem is the omnipresence since his is everywhere in 3D normally it would be adventagious for goku to hit him but if he did then it would be real bad for goku and would it even work i mean thantos is intangible in darkness form

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Alright. You've explained yourself well.

1 Thantos. 0 Goku.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I'm going with Thantos too. Even with 3-D Omnipresence he can tag Goku pretty easily and absorb his soul.

 

[PostmodernD]

Thantos for reasons above. Omnipresence goes a long way.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Gonna be going with Thantos thanks to his Omnipresence and soul absorption.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Thantos should take both rounds, I would think. His hax will be very helpful, and being an incorporeal cloud of darkness in round 2 means Goku's higher combat speed won't mean much.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump

 

[Cropfist]

Thantos for reasons above.

 

[LTB2000]

Isn't this match a hax stomp? So this won't be included since it goes against the rules in the vs threads.

 

[Daarius.ivey]

Isn't this match a hax stomp? So this won't be included since it goes against the rules in the vs threads.

there is a rule against hax stomps now, when? because if that is the case then i know alot of matches that should changed then.

 

[Cropfist]

There are no rules regarding "hax stomps".

 

[Ryukama]

EDIT: If Thantos soul haxs someone upon contact and is omnipresent, how could Goku win?

 

[PostmodernD]

It is discouraged, but just because a character has had, and wins by it, does not automatically make it a stomp. There are things to consider, is this a stomp? Eh, I don't think so, but I'll listen to an argument in that direction.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Actually, Crop, there is. However, I don't believe it's a hax stomp as Goku does have the spirit bomb to work with. Also, I always see someone calling hax stomp when Goku's losing.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Ryu, he's nigh omnipresent in like everywhere but where his human body, so there's about a rooms distance of no Darkness.

 

[Ryukama]

It doesn't matter if it's technically via hax. The effect of this stomp would be as if he blitzed and oneshot. Goku has no immunity to soul absorption, Darkness absorbs souls upon contact, and he is everywhere but one arbitrary spot. Meaning he's going to immediately touch him.

 

[Cropfist]

Actually, Crop, there is. However, I don't believe it's a hax stomp as Goku does have the spirit bomb to work with. Also, I always see someone calling hax stomp when Goku's losing.

I agree. It's starting to get out of hand and make this site look biased towards Dragon Ball.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Like for example, say Goku and Thantos are inside a castle fighting. The Darkness is everywhere but that castle. I mean, it could penetrate that castle, but it would take the time of an average human.

 

[Ryukama]

@Cal does Goku start off within that distance outside of the nigh-omnipresence? If so he could one-shot and blitz human form making this a stomp in the other direction.

@Crop You act as if Dragon Ball is the only verse we stop from getting stomped. And it doesn't matter if it's via hax. If characters have abilities like reality warping, transmutation and other dura negating stuff that could instanly kill them, how is that any different from a one shot AP stomp?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Goku does start outside of the nigh omnipresence, but speed is equalized for part one, and he can become the darkness at any time. I see it as if Goku could destroy the Darkness before the Darkness penetrates that area.

 

[Ryukama]

So Darkness can still exist even if human form gets killed?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I honestly don't know. It wasn't established well inside the movie. It was basically just Thantos is the darkness, and he can merge with the darkness.

 

[Ryukama]

That seems like a rather important factor in this match though. Probably one that could determine the outcome. I'm not sure what to say then if it's unknown.

 

[LTB2000]

1: the spirit bomb takes forever to charge up, so how can that work. 2: goku has no countermeasures for any hax whatsoever and the rules stated that this match can only be accepted if the non-haxed hax character has countermeasures against the hax.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

now i wanna know which movie thantos came from even?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Twitches. A DISNEY CHANNEL movie, believe it or not lol.

 

[LTB2000]

Actually, Crop, there is. However, I don't believe it's a hax stomp as Goku does have the spirit bomb to work with. Also, I always see someone calling hax stomp when Goku's losing.

What can goku do to someone that's intangible and can absorb your soul by a single touch. Goku can't do shit to this guy, it's obviously a stomp.

 

[A_Sword_Dancer]

I believe the issue with 'stomps' is that no fight actually happens. It's ok for a character to lose or even lose bad obviously, but it's not ok for there to be a checklist of items that make it so one character never got a chance to fight in the first place, that's no effectively different than putting different tiers into the same fight.

When goku fought hit for example hit had time stop hax and they gave him an advantage, but there was still a fight. hit didn't just stop gokus heart and then thats gg or something. There's a clear difference between losing because you couldn't overcome the advantage someone has due to hax and hax making it so that it was never possible for you to win.

 

[LTB2000]

This match is way too unfair, if it isn't, then can anyone explain to me how goku can hurt an intangible being that's everywhere, and can steal your soul by making contact.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Twitches. A DISNEY CHANNEL movie, believe it or not lol.

yeah disney OP lol anyway so Thantos's omnipresence doesn't reach a castle if goku starts there he can charge the spirit bomb true i still feel it would phase through him but if goku destroyed the universe instead what would happen to thantos?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I mean, it can be everywhere. He just didn't, for stupid reasons. If Goku universe busted, it would probably take out Thantos. However, since even peak Goku isn't greater than Beerus, and both were stated to die to the death of the universe, it would be a hollow victory.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

true so if Goku is bloodlusted then he can just bust the universe and draw?