Son Goku vs Adell (Remake)

[TheNarwhalKing]

I'm voting for Goku since he has the kiaoken, and I think that would give him enough strength to win the fight.

 

[FateAlbane]

Goku: 5 (Kaltias, Knightofannihilation666, Sidali891, Anderson2003, TheNarwhalKing)

Adell: 4 (Anonimoe7875, Jesterofgames, Laughing Manson, The real cal howard)

 

[Aeyu]

Gonna have to go with Adell with high difficulty. His stats can be increased to be far, far above baseline universal, eventually defeating Pringer X, who is vastly more powerful than Zenon, Baal or Laharl (he is stated to be the strongest thing in the entire universe)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubnC37hEXsw (towards the end of the video)

He also can use Dimension Slash, which has at least universal power.

 

[Huesito88]

Goku for reasons above

 

[FateAlbane]

@Aeyu Pringer X is one of the strongest beings in Disgaea but stronger than Baal or Zenon would be hyperbole (especially considering that Zenon herself gets hyped as the strongest, Zetta gets hyped as the strongest and Baal, too, gets hyped as the strongest).

Other than that, sure thing, counting the votes.

Goku: 6 (Kaltias, Knightofannihilation666, Sidali891, Anderson2003, TheNarwhalKing, Huesito88)

Adell: 5 (Anonimoe7875, Jesterofgames, Laughing Manson, The real cal howard, Aeyu)

 

[Aeyu]

@Aeyu Pringer X is one of the strongest beings in Disgaea but stronger than Baal or Zenon would be hyperbole (especially considering that Zenon herself gets hyped as the strongest, Zetta gets hyped as the strongest and Baal, too, gets hyped as the strongest).

Except in the intro it clearly states that it uses Baal's soul and directly uses Zetta's energy. Added to the fact that it literally says it's the strongest being in the universe.

 

[Cropfist]

Adell for reasons above.

 

[FateAlbane]

Not to derail, but... The soul of Baal was transferred into Prinny Rasho as the basis. Baal's soul in his Real Body >>>>> Pringer X (like seriously, compare Baal in his recent appearances to Pringer X in Disgaea2DHD. Doesn't even compare in power). As for Zetta, he was in his sacred tome form who is <<< Zetta in his real body and it is said that he lent his support, not that he gave all his Mana/Energy to Pringer X.

Nonetheless, it is one of the strongest beings in the verse and Zetta himself ran away from it (though in the sacred tome form)... However at that point it was endgame, so pretty much Adell and Zenon/Rozalin vs Pringer X.

And the game itself mocks the "strongest in the universe" statement by saying by the end of the fight, after you beat Pringer X that "Nonetheless, even more formidable foes await them now. Deal with it."

 

[FateAlbane]

Nonetheless, that proves once again that Adell is way above baseline Universal, too.

 

[FateAlbane]

Goku: 6 (Kaltias, Knightofannihilation666, Sidali891, Anderson2003, TheNarwhalKing, Huesito88)

Adell: 6 (Anonimoe7875, Jesterofgames, Laughing Manson, The real cal howard, Aeyu, Cropfist)

 

[Therefir]

Goku for reasons above

 

[FateAlbane]

Goku: 7 (Kaltias, Knightofannihilation666, Sidali891, Anderson2003, TheNarwhalKing, Huesito88, Therefir)

Adell: 6 (Anonimoe7875, Jesterofgames, Laughing Manson, The real cal howard, Aeyu, Cropfist)

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Normally a Big Bang feat is considered 3-A unless explicitly stated that it destroyed/recreated time and space like the original big bang.


Also I vote for Goku. While I do believe that Adell is much stronger than baseline universal it really doesnt compare to the fact that Goku only keeps getting higher and higher and higher on the 3-A scale. Not to mention that he also has Kaioken which makes him even more stronger.


Adell is lucky this is speed equalized tho. Although it isnt that big of a difference.

 

[FateAlbane]

While most of what you said makes sense, just a nitpick: Wasn't Nipponverse actually faster than DBS? Or did DB get another calc to put them even faster? Not that it matters much since Speed Equalized, just curious.

Goku: 8 (Kaltias, Knightofannihilation666, Sidali891, Anderson2003, TheNarwhalKing, Huesito88, Therefir, Super Saiyan God Julian)

Adell: 6 (Anonimoe7875, Jesterofgames, Laughing Manson, The real cal howard, Aeyu, Cropfist)

 

[Kaltias]

Iirc Goku scales from a feat performed by Whis which is double digit quadrillions.

Also which are Adell's status effects?

 

[FateAlbane]

There's Poison which Goku has Res against, Sleep that's self-explanatory (but the target wakes up after being hit once). Paralysis (also self-explanatory, wears down after sometime. In Disgaea Paralyzed targets can still attack... Somehow, but not move from where they are so I dunno how that would work in a VS match.)

And then there's the dreaded cursing that reduces the target's stats all around while in effect.

 

[Geova2507]

Goku has the Kaio-ken advantage, so even if they have speed equalized Goku can bacome 10 times faster than Adell, Goku also has more experience and raw power, so I think he take this

 

[Jesterofgames]

Wait doesn't Adell have buffs and Debuffs?

Meaning he can Help close any speed advantage the Kio Ken gives

(Plus again he should have the ability to stop time Which still affects Base Goku)

 

[FateAlbane]

He does (That's included in stats effects, probably, though even if you combine debuffing with say, cursing, it doesn't reduce the target's stats 10 times over, so Kayo-Ken would probably cancel that).

Anyways, for now it's grace period for Goku.

Goku : 9 (Kaltias, Knightofannihilation666, Sidali891, Anderson2003, TheNarwhalKing, Huesito88, Therefir, Super Saiyan God Julian, Geova2507)

Adell: 6 (Anonimoe7875, Jesterofgames, Laughing Manson, The real cal howard, Aeyu, Cropfist)